General Chat Thread, How Much - Loft Conversion, ish? in General; Originally Posted by RichB
you cant claim it as living space but can claim it as an office, will always ...
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30th June 2010, 11:55 AM #16
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Originally Posted by
RichB
you cant claim it as living space but can claim it as an office, will always add value!
Wrong. It will only ever be classed as a loft unless you have fixed staircase and full building regs. Without those then it will not add any value to the house as theres no evidence that the work has been done to the correct spec. i.e. to proper strengthen the floor you need to install additional joists running across the current ones, which will be there to hold up the ceiling of the room below. This takes up roof space and can render a loft area unusable due to loss of height. But without those you always run the risk of the loft space collapsing into the room below, especially when you start putting in. Lots of bodge jobs / diy efforts dont bother with the additional joists. Have just spent 2 years and 45k putting on a side extension and loft extension, but now the house has just be revalued and increased in value by 60k - happy with that!
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30th June 2010, 11:59 AM #17 
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bertster
to proper strengthen the floor you need to install additional joists running across the current ones, which will be there to hold up the ceiling of the room below
You don't have to reinforce the joists. Some houses will already have joists strong enough and close enough to take a loft extension (by building regs)
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30th June 2010, 12:06 PM #18 Let us be clear:- You MAY need to reinforce the structure. This depends ENTIRELY on what the structure is now, what the spans are and what you intend to do with the space. No one can give proper advice without seeing what is there, and checking the design against either the Regs or an engineer's solution.
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30th June 2010, 12:06 PM #19
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You don't have to reinforce the joists. Some houses will already have joists strong enough and close enough to take a loft extension (by building regs)
Afraid you do hightower - if you are going along the proper building regs route. The new joists must run across the current ones (at right angles).
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30th June 2010, 12:07 PM #20 
Originally Posted by
bertster
to proper strengthen the floor you need to install additional joists running across the current ones, which will be there to hold up the ceiling of the room below. This takes up roof space and can render a loft area unusable due to loss of height.
Unless the existing joists are strong enough to hold up the added weight, in which case you wouldn't need extra joists, this is the quickest way to bring your ceiling a lot closer to floor below, quickly followed by the roof.
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30th June 2010, 12:13 PM #21 @bertster Really? I don't think so! Joists span walls, not free air. You may need to add depth to the existing joist, you may need to double up the joists... You need someone who KNOWS to look at what you've got.
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30th June 2010, 12:17 PM #22 The building trade is like IT, a lot of money can be made putting right what the 'I know how to do that' practitioner has messed up. I have been in both professions.
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30th June 2010, 12:50 PM #23 
Originally Posted by
RichB
you cant claim it as living space but can claim it as an office, will always add value!
This is not correct a office is classed as a living space but you will be able to claim its a storage space. A storage space will add a little to the value but not much. When I was looking for a house last time I looked at a house with a loft that had been privately converted but did not pass the regulations as the floor had not been strengthened and I it was in the description converted into a office and bathroom. When I had it survered. The report came back that it was just storage space as it would not pass the regulations and that the property had been incorrectly advertised and it was at least £22000 over priced due the the incorrect information.
Richard
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30th June 2010, 02:01 PM #24 price will depend mainly on your current roof truss type as said previously if its a tricky one youll be talking 20k if its the more ideal type for conversions 5-10k maybe, If I was having a loft conversion id get a builder just to do the structural work then i'd do the boarding ect myself to cut costs as im a tight B like that lol and its helps my GF'd dad is a joiner
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