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    Why !

    Why is it that teaching staff cannot understand that they should not let students logon using their (the teachers) logons?

    Why cant they understand that they have, via their logon, access to websites that students arent allowed on?

    Why cant they understand that they can, via their logon, delete all the files on the shared staff only accessible mapped drives?

    Why cant they understand that they can, via their logon, delete all the files in that teachers home area?

    Why cant they understand that the student in question has had their account temporarily suspended for a reason?

    I actually am contemplating going onto the server and deleting all the files in the staff shared areas/teachers home area, and sticking downloaded child porn into their area, to make a point. These are supposed to be degree standard qualified teachers, not a bunch of retards. Its elementary basic security 101. Seriously, I mean would they give their bank card and pin number to some student? or their car keys? or their home keys?

    I swear at times that I think the sooner computers doing teaching comes along the better, infuriatingly it seems that half the teachers in the country are incompetent, technologically medieval, unable to adapt to an unexpected change or just plain lazy.

    /rant off

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    Re: Why..Why...why...

    It's because they are dumb.

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    Re: Why..Why...why...

    Presumably you have a AUP? Presumably said AUP also has clauses covering the issues you've mentioned? Presumably you can now beat your ignorant teachers to death with it?

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    Hehe, we do, and no doubt will. But the ignoring of that AUP still bugs the bejeebus out of me.

    Well actually no..thats not entirely true, its not the act of ignoring that constantly amazes me, its the fact that they actually cannot see why there is anything wrong with doing it. Even the year 7s understand that you dont give someone access to your stuff

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    They are teachers how dare someone who is of an inferior class to them tell them how to behave!

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    I'd move their work out of their user area, let them complain and tell them a kid must have done it and then move it back saying you recovered it from backup which was lucky, but they might not be so lucky next time.

    are they male or female? I have a cup of coffee riding on the answer.

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    Neither, they are teachers Devoid of gender and emotions.

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    They're female. Though I suspect its a generational thing rather than a gender thing

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    YES! I knew it, similar thing happens here, but only with the female teachers. I owe myself one cup of coffee which i'm going to go claim now.

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    I've not had any problems like that here per se... at the last school I worked at, a member of the D&T department did that, and not only let a student use his logon, also the kid saw what the password was over his shoulder, *AND* later on tried to get a copy of the Viglen Classlink software out of Viglen by impersonating an IT Tech and saying that it needed to be sent to his home address as he was 'out of the school on medical leave and needed to work from home'.

    I don't miss those days.

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    Its not because the teachers are dumb, it's because the managers are teachers. Management are unable to either come up with a decent ICT policy or enforce it because they are not good managers. They are being walked over by the general teachers. Don't blame the teaqchers stupidity when management have failed to train them.

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    How much training does it take to know that if you give someone your login, they can delete your stuff?

    Surely thats not an issue of training, but an issue of common sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    Its not because the teachers are dumb, it's because the managers are teachers. Management are unable to either come up with a decent ICT policy or enforce it because they are not good managers. They are being walked over by the general teachers. Don't blame the teaqchers stupidity when management have failed to train them.
    This is why I fully support the govt's new idea of allowing high level business people with no teaching qualifications to apply for jobs as Head Teachers as they will have much more real world experiance and ability to manage people. Teachers just can't DO management, they aren't organised or trained enough.

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    Re: Why..Why...why...

    This happened at my last school:

    A Year 4 boy (admittedly extremely bright) came to me and said "Mr ---- said please could you give me the adminstrator password for the PC in our classroom so that I can install this CD on it"

    I must have counted to around 100 before saying NO as calmly as I could!

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    at my last school we had a design teacher that had given his password out to a number of students.

    we also suspected that some of the students knew at least 2 other staff passwords.

    we sent round an email telling all the staff that due to a security breach ie students knowing a staff password that a number of sensitive documents with staff details on have been printed off by a student. (was a lie but got the message across) we also listed a number of other reasons such as the student would have access to there emails etc.

    therefore all staff need to change there password

    then from AD selected all the staff and ticked Change password on next logon, set the policy to, cant use the same password.

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