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    Obama - Keep ya gob shut

    I'm getting a bit fed up with Obama's rants at the moment - he is really screwing up my pension with his outbursts. Yes yes yes BP messed up, but just let them sort it out and keep your mouth shut you bleeding imbecile.

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    James Whale said something similar during the Sky News paper review this morning.

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    He's just jumped on the band wagon thinking if he slates BP like the rest of the world is doing it will result in good publicity, my jaw dropped when I heard the president of one of the worlds super powers saying "I just want to know who ass to kick", I don't think thats the attitude a person in such a position should be flaunting publicly.

    I'm sure BP are doing their upmost to avert an even bigger disaster.
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    I am sure I read somewhere that the rig was owned and operated by an American company who are sub-contractors to BP... why is nobody going after them?

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    I had to laugh when I saw the news clip of him singing and dancing at the whitehouse with Paul Mcartney and co. whilst the poor folks in Louisiana trudged along beaches clogged with mud. Quite ironic when you think his image is one of cleancut campaigner for the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broc View Post
    I am sure I read somewhere that the rig was owned and operated by an American company who are sub-contractors to BP... why is nobody going after them?
    Taken from the BBC website,

    "Nor is the ownership of BP strictly British. The company is 44%-owned in the UK, split largely between 33 institutions and seven large individual investors.
    But, since it is one of the UK's biggest companies and a major constituent of the FTSE 100 index, many thousands of UK private investors will have exposure to BP though tracker funds and pensions.
    US investors own 39% of the company, including 25 institutional and 14 big individual investors."

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    I think the 'other' company in question is the insidious Halliburton co. who made so much money out of the Iraq war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauljonze View Post
    I think the 'other' company in question is the insidious Halliburton co. who made so much money out of the Iraq war.
    Yes stones in glass houses comes to mind.



    He should take a look at the 'good' work that Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) did....then shut his ******* mouth.

    Bhopal disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Why shouldn't he speak out about companies that are destroying the planet? If presidents etc don't criticise the companies that are happy to make profits from oil extraction etc but aren't prepared to sort it out when things go wrong then we end up with situations like Bhopal.

    Boris Johnson (aka the "Idiot Mayor") was being interviewed this morning and basically said "it was an accident; we should leave them alone" Well, this might be OK when you're talking about kids who "accidentally" kick a football through a window but it's not OK when you're spilling this quantity of oil into the sea and have been doing so for over a month!

    BP (or whoever they want to sub-contract) should have had a proper disaster plan in place and that plan should have included all necessary equipment - we shouldn't have Tony Hayward wittering on about not having the right tools in the toolbox! It's not as if they're short of the money which would have bought those tools!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    BP (or whoever they want to sub-contract) should have had a proper disaster plan in place and that plan should have included all necessary equipment - we shouldn't have Tony Hayward wittering on about not having the right tools in the toolbox! It's not as if they're short of the money which would have bought those tools!!
    The problem is that the disaster recovery plan submitted by BP included such items as the protection of native species, such as the walrus. It is now obvious that huge chunks of a previous (Alaskan) disaster recovery plan were cut and pasted into the Gulf recovery plan. This points to the committee with responsibility for scrutinising the plan seemingly passing it on the nod, though it has been suggested that connections to "big business" could be invloved. It may also indicate that BP felt that such a poor presentation would pass through committee with their blessing.

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    BP should compensate the millions of US citizens whose lives have been blighted by their 'cut costs to make bigger profits' business model. Yes the contractors were American but BP chose to use them because they were cheap.

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    Obama should be working on changing the attitudes of his citizens towards oil first, this is an important wakeup call for Obama who until just before this had started to issue drilling rights off the USA cost, these disasters have happened all over the world be people care less when it's a third world backwater. Hopefully Americans will think that bit harder next time they're filling up the 8 litre SUV. I'm not laying the blame firmly at their feet most of the west is equally to blame but they top the excess leader board.

    BP deserves criticism and has said that they will pay for the clean up operation, that won't be happening if Obama talks the company out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    BP deserves criticism and has said that they will pay for the clean up operation, that won't be happening if Obama talks the company out of business.
    ...and it seems that some of the Gulf Coast Americans are making a tidy profit out of the situation!

    'I was lucky if I made $1,000 a month before the spill. Now BP pay me $1,200 a day': Fishermen make most of Gulf oil disaster.

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    ...and for all of those who are slagging off BP for "not doing enough", watch Kent Wells Technical Update - 31 May 2010 (albeit a week and a half old) to get an idea of the scale of things that they are working with and the effort that they are putting in to get a solution!

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    oh, i get it....for the socialists it's alright for politicians to lambast large institutions like banks incessantly when they are perceived to be at fault despite the politicians doing the mudslinging and the people who support it not knowing the first thing about the industry, but poor harmless old BP when it has to shoulder responsibility should be left alone and politicians should stop whining about the environmental catastrophe... because your pensions are at stake ?

    what kind of hypocrisy is this ?

    obviously we identify BP as a british company so there is that defensive angle, but clearly it's ownership is quite diverse......like many multinationals. surprise suprise.

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