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General Chat Thread, Which 'front end'? in General; Don't really know where to put this, so.. further to my request for info on what hardware to buy (thanks ...
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    Which 'front end'?

    Don't really know where to put this, so..
    further to my request for info on what hardware to buy (thanks for that, guys), I now want to know which user interface you would recommend. Not a vanilla system please - can't have one of those.
    Is it RM, Viglen, Schoolcare, or what?
    This lot are leaning towards RM, although the kit is very expensive. Would it be better to buy the kit from, say, Dell, and then get all the software and network gubbins from RM?
    Thoughts please!!

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    I would go for the MS Learning whatsit that we have a forum on here about, at least when you are in a postition in the future to go for a real system you can easily merge from to it from that kit.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    karoshi ?

    * PDC System
    * Server/Network Management
    * Shared Student and Staff Areas
    * Bulk User Creation
    * Wake on LAN
    * Windows/Linux Profile Management
    * Remote Server Management
    * Kixtart Logins
    * File Storage
    * Software Deployment for Windows Clients
    * Programs Area
    * Proxy System
    * Multimedia Storage and Access
    * Room Internet Banning
    * Room Booking
    * Help Centre/Asset Register
    * Website Cache
    * Internet Blocking
    * Internet Logging
    * Printer Management
    * Operating System Deployment/Ghosting
    * Web Server
    * VLE/Online Classroom
    * Home Access
    * WebMail
    * Online Library
    * Website
    * GroupWare
    * Backup Management
    * Media Studies Specialist Server
    * Server Monitoring System
    http://www.karoshi.org.uk/

    did I mention it's free ?

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    I'd go for RM CC3 - buy the hardware from wherever you please and get the Connect licences separately from RM.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    @john

    Learning Network Manager? Possibly ... but as you can see from the fact that the forum is very quiet .. and not too many of us have got it fully running at our schools I would say that it is not right for schools at this time.

    A number of us did carefully look at it ... and whilst it is good ... and as it is free it could be very helpful ... but a vanilla system was just as good.

    RM CC3/CC4? Pretty much has it for me ... but just remember to get your hardware elsewhere.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    @tony thats the one, i've got brain fade of late, too much computer work, 18 hour days at screens aint doing my brain or eyes any good.

    I will be honest I was going to implement the LNM at a couple of sites I do some work for but I decided I would just go standard vanilla 2003 and XP purely because I feel that I can do everythign I need to and want to myself rather than getting a box to do it for me, it also keeps the brain going.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    Ranger?

    Sits quite happily on top of a vanilla system.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    Not a vanilla system please - can't have one of those.
    Out of interest, why is this not an option?

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    Not School care. I use to be the ICT Manager for the Chesil Education Partnership and before I left I started to write an front end for AD. Give them a call they may be able to help, you will need to speak to Gary Fooks 01035 206130 If not I've finished my own version and maybe we could arrange something

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    When you say user interface do you mean what the students see or the admin side of things?

    If it's what the users see on their desktops then whats wrong with a vanilla setup?

    Ben

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    I'd go for Ranger - as already stated - sits easily on a vanilla system, is not as expensive as some, is very easy to use, and is esy to remove if no longer needed.

    We had it for nearly 3 years to get us through and now use vanilla 2003.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    I mean the admin side AND what the students see
    This is a first school and the powers that be want it to look very 'kiddy' friendly. I have explained how a vanilla would work but it has been decided that they don't want to go there. As I say, not my choice.

    Given the teachers preference for RM, I think I may end up with it, but thanks a lot for the confirmation that we should buy the kit elsewhere.

    I am going to look at the other options though
    Thanks again

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    The trouble with powers that be deciding that it has to be kiddy friendly is that this doesn't equip them for the real world when the corporate systems they are going to be using are not kiddy friendly.

    Showing them a desktop that is set by you with all the shortcuts they need is simple enough.

    Why not mock up some screenshots of the various systems including a bannana one just to demonstrate.

    Ben

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    From a user's perspective, CC3 isn't all that different from a vanilla, only a different login screen is mandatory. There is optional utilities like a status screen and logoff button, and the RM Learning Resources that they can use if they want to.

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    Re: Which 'front end'?

    plexer: not really a problem as these students are only 9 when they leave and they go on to middle and upper schools that do use the sort of systems they will see in the real world - but I think I will set up some sort of examples.

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