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    Big Google is watching


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    Just think, if it was Facebook that had done this, first they would just be saying that people were choosing to make that data public, and then that their amazing privacy settings mean the data is only shared with their friends, and the applications their friends had authorised.

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    Good maybe the people using unsecured networks will think twice now..

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    Sigh, another case of stupid people winning a case for the sake of gaining publicity, money and generally whining.

    If I leave my front door open, can I pursue prosecution to the person who sticks their head in the door and says "Hello?" on the grounds of trespassing?

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    No, but if that person has huge magnets in their pockets and accidentally picks up your car keys and walks off with them without realising, they are still to blame because they walked in with huge magnets in their pockets and should have known better. Especially if they then made a copy of the keys because they had all these keys lying around and thought they'd better make some copies in case they lose them.
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    My views are that the numptys who didn't secure their network only have themselves to blame for Google snooping on them. When will people ever learn!

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    Bit of both. People should secure their networks if they dont want people listening in, and google should be more careful about what information they collect. Personally it worries me just how much data google do collect, and what can be done with it. I think it was a new york times journalist who managed to identify a particular person from 'anonymous' ip logged searches that google records. but then again, i'm paranoid :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonwoods123 View Post
    Bit of both. People should secure their networks if they dont want people listening in, and google should be more careful about what information they collect. Personally it worries me just how much data google do collect, and what can be done with it. I think it was a new york times journalist who managed to identify a particular person from 'anonymous' ip logged searches that google records. but then again, i'm paranoid :P
    I'm paranoid too, I have my router wireless turned of, I then have a Hardware Smoothwall firewall, then on a dfferent subnet totally behind my firewall I have my machines and a seperate Wireless Router that is tied down to only allow access to known MAC addresses and also uses WPA security. Can never be too carefull ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by danrhodes View Post
    ...seperate Wireless Router that is tied down to only allow access to known MAC addresses and also uses WPA security. Can never be too carefull ;-)
    Wot, no WPA2-Radius? That's what I have on my home wireless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryTechnician View Post
    Wot, no WPA2-Radius? That's what I have on my home wireless...
    Snap, along with IDS. Scan my network and die

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    This is a bit of both situation, I think. On the one hand, why were people using unsecured networks, etc, but on the other, why were Google's Street View cars equipped with anything to capture it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    why were Google's Street View cars equipped with anything to capture it?
    They are surveying AP locations for use with assisted GPS. At least, this is the official reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryTechnician View Post
    Wot, no WPA2-Radius? That's what I have on my home wireless...
    No but I will do now you have given me the idea :-) Along with PowdarMonkeys IDS idea too me thinks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilfisher View Post
    Sigh, another case of stupid people winning a case for the sake of gaining publicity, money and generally whining.

    If I leave my front door open, can I pursue prosecution to the person who sticks their head in the door and says "Hello?" on the grounds of trespassing?
    They've not left the front door open, just unlocked. Slightly different situation.

    Google haven't even knocked on the door and checked, just barged in, had a look around, taken what information they can grab and left. So yes, in that situation trespassing charges would be justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    They've not left the front door open, just unlocked. Slightly different situation.

    Google haven't even knocked on the door and checked, just barged in, had a look around, taken what information they can grab and left. So yes, in that situation trespassing charges would be justified.
    I disagree completely.

    Google haven't invaded, trespassed or anything else you wish to call it.

    If you wish consider it in human terms I suggest that they have overheard part of a conversation and remembered it.


    Just my £0.02.

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