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    Well, it looks like the results are (almost) finally in. The Conservatives have won more seats and polled more votes than any other party, yet it looks like the 2 losing parties will get to run the country!!
    Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhh! Our democracy is broken!

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    Yep, probably about the worst result we could've hoped for. Trouble is if they bring in PR then this is likely to be the constitution of the government for the forceable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    Well, it looks like the results are (almost) finally in. The Conservatives have won more seats and polled more votes than any other party, yet it looks like the 2 losing parties will get to run the country!!
    Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhh! Our democracy is broken!
    Correct, why can we not just have it so that the party that gets the most votes gets #10, surely thats more democratic than the system we have in place now?

    I am also unsure what to think about all the people who didnt get chance to vote. I know in sheffield near me there were hundreds of people qued up to vote and they just got turned away, again, how is that right?

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    If we had any form of fair representation, the Lib Dems would have three times as many seats as they have. Our Parliaments have been a stitch-up for too long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    If we had any form of fair representation, the Lib Dems would have three times as many seats as they have. Our Parliaments have been a stitch-up for too long!
    Agreed, its a mess! Dos_Box has it in one "Our democracy is broken!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    If we had any form of fair representation, the Lib Dems would have three times as many seats as they have. Our Parliaments have been a stitch-up for too long!
    Alas the Conservatives, allthough in a hung parliament, have too meny seats. Looks as if the LD's will roll over and allow Cameron to form a minority government. Net result the political reform we desperately need to resolve this is very unlikely to happen. My prediction - there'll be another election in side 18 months that would give the Tories a working majority. We'll not get another chance of reforming the voting system for a good 15-20 years. Oh-hum, life goes on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    If we had any form of fair representation, the Lib Dems would have three times as many seats as they have. Our Parliaments have been a stitch-up for too long!
    Yep, if Labour hadn't fiddled the ward boundaries we would've seen more Lib Dem MP's. If you're after a PR system, as well as your extra Lib Dem MP's you would also have to accept having some BNP MP's.

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    Well the way it looks to me is that Labours seats and LD's together still wouldn't form a majority. Personally, I think this is the result the country needs.

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    Gordon Brown still has the Constitutional right of forming an alliance Government with the LibDems & others to keep the Tories out. He could offer the LibDems PR, some say on the economy & other policies and agree to hold a referendum in 12 months time & then call an election 12 months later under PR... assuming the electorate approve of PR ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by teejay View Post
    Yep, if Labour hadn't fiddled the ward boundaries we would've seen more Lib Dem MP's. If you're after a PR system, as well as your extra Lib Dem MP's you would also have to accept having some BNP MP's.
    Rest assured, if the Tories get in they will chop 150 MPs out of Westminister & this will ensure that neither Labour or the Libdems get in......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Well the way it looks to me is that Labours seats and LD's together still wouldn't form a majority. Personally, I think this is the result the country needs.
    They will with the Scottish/Welsh national parties, which will be done at the expense of guaranteeing no budget reduction for the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly, meaning people in England will be facing all the cuts which will come in this parliament.

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    Well, it may be that we actually get PR for the next election, since people will have to cut deals.

    I'm actually looking forward to the wheeling and dealing between parties - it looks like the Lib Dems may have more influence than the number of seats they hold suggest. They'll be the deciding factor in any votes of no confidence.

    Not only that, but individual MPs are going to have a lot more influence (I hope).

    However it is quite obvious that the system is broken - the number of people actually turned away from polling stations demonstrates that quite nicely. It'll be very interesting to see if any challenges to the results do occur because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broc View Post
    Gordon Brown still has the Constitutional right of forming an alliance Government with the LibDems & others to keep the Tories out. He could offer the LibDems PR, some say on the economy & other policies and agree to hold a referendum in 12 months time & then call an election 12 months later under PR... assuming the electorate approve of PR ....
    Judging by previous hung parliaments, assuming it'll last 24 months to another election might be a bit optimistic.

    The shortest was what, three days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    Judging by previous hung parliaments, assuming it'll last 24 months to another election might be a bit optimistic.

    The shortest was what, three days?
    So long as they do something about electoral reform in that time, I'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    Judging by previous hung parliaments, assuming it'll last 24 months to another election might be a bit optimistic.

    The shortest was what, three days?
    Longest was 53 months..... but Brown could keep the Libdems on board by promising electoral reform; it would have to be done via referendum & that would take time to organise. Assuming it was voted in favour by the electorate, both parties would want time to rebuild their finances before going to the polls again... so they would make it work....

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