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    Hi Everyone,

    When Googling earlier I came across this website:

    EngVibe

    That explains that engineer graduates are awarded a ring for their chosen profession I was wondering if anyone agrees this is a good thing for IT technicians and computer engineers etc etc.

    Yes/No ?

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    I did a Computer Engineering Degree and never got a ring, I heard about the practice though more amongst material and civil engineering types. The ring in question was iron and awarded on completion of degree and acceptance into the engineering fraternity. From what I could tell though it never caught on for the Computer Engineers at least where I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    I did a Computer Engineering Degree and never got a ring, I heard about the practice though more amongst material and civil engineering types. The ring in question was iron and awarded on completion of degree and acceptance into the engineering fraternity. From what I could tell though it never caught on for the Computer Engineers at least where I was.
    It's a pity it ever caught on maybe BCS will create one

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    I doubt it. Real engineering (civil) qualifications at that level are very, very hard indeed, and, I have to be honest here, way beyond the ability of most people here. It's not something to be shared around and devalued IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    I doubt it. Real engineering (civil) qualifications at that level are very, very hard indeed, and, I have to be honest here, way beyond the ability of most people here. It's not something to be shared around and devalued IMHO.
    I completely agree it shouldn't be devalued, just wondered if there is an IT equivelent.

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    Yea, I should have been more precise, the ring was a symbol of joining the engineering culture where the wrong call on a design could mean 10s, hundreds or thousands of lives lost. You can get that too a certain extent in some electronic products which electronic engineers make, lift computers etc but failure is not usually as catastrophic. Well unless you work for AirBus or Toyota

    There are so many differing levels of proficiency and so many differing fields in computing that it would be a hard task to craft a symbol and set a bar that would be acceptable to all those involved. I like the idea of it but for the moment at least there is simply not the same culture in the computing field as there is in the physical engineering field. Until there is the same level of dedication, rigger and seriousness in the field I think that any emulation would simply detract from the spirit of the original.

    With regards to Toyota etc I think that the existence this kind of culture would probably have made their recent issues far less likely and perhaps as the field matures more this kind of culture may be more practical and will be expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MNHughes View Post
    That explains that engineer graduates are awarded a ring for their chosen profession
    It explains that Canadian engineering graduates are awarded a ring, and in Canada "engineer" has a very specific meaning - if I remember correctly, you can't use the term in your job title without an appropriate qualification / certification (as with "Dr" or "Sir"). Computer programmers are not engineers - we can't even prove a program will finish executing, let alone do what we want it to do.

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