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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    The written language is based in the idea that it helps us develop speech patterns, with some punctuation to denote pauses and others to denote emphasis. Without a good understanding of this then we lose so much.
    While I'll agree up to a point I will repeat what I've said several times over. It's the content and meaning of what is being said that is important - not the method in which it is being said. While spelling and grammar is important it is secondary to the message.

    I know I can't spell for toffee and I'm sure I've used more than the odd punctuation mark in the wrong place. But really, I don't care! So long as you understand the meaning of what I type I can't see as being of that great an importance.

    Sorry. (actually, I'm not that sorry - just trying to be polite )

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    While I'll agree up to a point I will repeat what I've said several times over. It's the content and meaning of what is being said that is important - not the method in which it is being said. While spelling and grammar is important it is secondary to the message.

    I will repeat what I said: spelling and grammar enable the message to be put across effectively. The odd typo or misplaced semi-colon doesn't matter too much, of course, but when the errors escalate, the original message is lost.
    There are a large number of words in the English language whose meaning changes profoundly with the change of just one letter (e.g. Affect and Effect) so it is quite important to ensure (insure?!) that you use the correct one. Otherwise you will be misunderstood.

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    @tmcd35, I agree that meaning is everything. However, good grammar ensures that what is written is less likely to be misunderstood.

    Unfortunately, poor grammar is irritating to those of us who can spell and punctuate, in the same way that an untidy room is to those who cannot stand mess. We cannot help it!

    Having said that, I'm as guilty as the next in not reading through my typing before posting. So I regularly end up editing after posting. It has taken real self-control not to correct my mis-typing of 'tic' in my opening post on this thread!

    Having a social group for us to moan in, might stop us taking threads off-topic as we let off steam! ( I only said might!)

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    Another thing to remember is that for people who English is not their first language, reading poor grammar and spelling will be a lot more confusing than it is to us.

    They won't know the nuances of our language to the extent that we do.

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    On any forum where you're asking for help, people tend to regard native English speakers who use txt/leet speak or just can't construct a sentence as idiots.

    So if you're inarticulate or come across as a twit, you're likely to be ignored (or possibly flamed, depending on the forum).

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    I'm in.

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    These very forums spell check your every post in US English, am I the only one who thinks that US English is just lazy English?! Sure, some of the spellings make more sense on the face of it, but grammatically they're breaking the rules! Color?! What the hell is color? Oh, you mean colour, well then why didn't you say so?! [/rant]
    Last edited by witch; 25th March 2010 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Language

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    More of this kind of thing. I'm in.

    And now I have to careful vet all my posts to make sure I don't make any mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    More of this kind of thing. I'm in.

    And now I have to careful vet all my posts to make sure I don't make any mistakes.
    Including this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenewman View Post
    Including this one.
    Ah yes. I am out the club before I even started

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Ah yes. I am out the club before I even started
    out of the club.

    Although strictly you can't be out before you're in, either.

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    Have you nothing better to do? This is a forum not a dictionary. So what if some people make a mistake? Members may post in a rush when they have an urgent problem, or in between jobs.

    Others may not have the literacy skills that some of you have, but may well have the answer to a problem you are experiencing. This is a forum for Techs not Librarians. Maybe a good name for the group would be members with a superiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RingOfFlame View Post
    Have you nothing better to do? This is a forum not a dictionary. So what if some people make a mistake? Members may post in a rush when they have an urgent problem, or in between jobs.

    Others may not have the literacy skills that some of you have, but may well have the answer to a problem you are experiencing. This is a forum for Techs not Librarians. Maybe a good name for the group would be members with a superiority complex.
    Maybe we should start a group called 'Now where did I put my sense of humour?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdarrmonkey View Post
    out of the club.

    Although strictly you can't be out before you're in, either.
    So did I mention how it's the content and meaning of the post that is important!
    Last edited by sparkeh; 25th March 2010 at 09:45 AM. Reason: Bad grammar

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