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General Chat Thread, Equal Pay in General; Job evaluation for ICT people We are going through the proccess in Poole and wondered if anybody has had the ...
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    Equal Pay

    Job evaluation for ICT people

    We are going through the proccess in Poole and wondered if anybody has had the same problem as me ....

    There are 4 standard job descriptions but I dont fit any of them .... the 2 most relevent to me are ICT tech level 2 and systems manager ... I do all of the techs job plus extra advanced tech stuff and most of the managers job on the technical side .... I dont have a budget and I dont teach kids !!!

    Has anybody had this and what happened???

    Thanks

    Brian

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    I had a similar problem so I had to fill out a tortuous JEQ - Job Evaluation Questionnaire.

    Still awaiting the outcome up here in darkest Warwickshire.
    Last edited by tech_guy; 11th March 2010 at 09:40 PM.

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    I work in Dorset and had the same problem when we did it some time ago. I think I ended up with tech level 2 but having realised how badly paid I am, I am going to ask HR for the person specs and work out if I could apply to go up a bit
    Get your school behind you - the school in Poole that I am governor of have put forward their tech as a network manager as that is what he is.

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    I did slightly better IT Tech Level 3, which was what I was on previously. It was deemed that I didn't "manage" anything so couldn't go any higher!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leco View Post
    I did slightly better IT Tech Level 3, which was what I was on previously. It was deemed that I didn't "manage" anything so couldn't go any higher!
    Dont you manage the network?

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    I have been told when we did ours, that My decisions only have consequences for myself, and the 2 technicians I line manage...

    "Right, Andrews not here... so I think its okay to turn off the servers until 8am when he starts....can't think of any reason why not..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brpilot99 View Post
    Dont you manage the network?

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    The impression I've got from all the trials we've been thru. You don't get higher unless you manage non-technical things, like people or budgets or strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brpilot99 View Post
    Dont you manage the network?

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    Yup sure do, but not line manage anyone as there is only me. Don't make decisions either apparently.

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    Yeah, I got told to my face that I didn't manage anything......

    .....still waiting for the right moment to present itself...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Yeah, I got told to my face that I didn't manage anything......

    .....still waiting for the right moment to present itself...........


    Just stop managing things and make a note of what you aren't managing. It will soon become apparent what you manage even if it's not people. Systems, budget etc?

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    I was half-tempted to do that - just sit up in the server room not doing anything until someone came along to ask what the flying **** was going on. Then I'd tell them that as I didn't manage anything I was waiting for someone to come up and tell me what to do.....

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    I got told by my line manager that although i'm the Network Manager and line manage 2 technicians and the manage the network, I'm not really a manager, so we will not be paying you as a manager. Needless to say I was not impressed with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezt View Post
    I got told by my line manager that although i'm the Network Manager and line manage 2 technicians and the manage the network, I'm not really a manager, so we will not be paying you as a manager. Needless to say I was not impressed with that.
    This sort of thing makes my blood boil it really does. What a load of unappreciative morons! This whole equal pay business is a load of tripe. It looks like my school and the LA are going to use Phase 2 as a cost-cutting exercise. They've delayed the announcement of the evaluation twice. Call me cynical, but don't we have a general election and local elections coming up in a few months?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezt View Post
    I got told by my line manager that although i'm the Network Manager and line manage 2 technicians and the manage the network, I'm not really a manager, so we will not be paying you as a manager. Needless to say I was not impressed with that.


    Drop into their office with a pen and paper and ask them to write down what they think the work 'manage' means, then hand them your job spec and department structure showing that you are more senior than two members of staff that take orders from you and ask them what they would call that process. What an idiot, i'd take that over their head .
    I know of another person who was in a similar position and they pushed for their job to be evaluated by the LEA, they agreed a spec and sent it off. As they we're called Network Manager and 'managed' people it came back with a recommended pay appropriate to the role SO2 I believe. Oh and of course the school then paid it while rubbing egg off of their foolish chins, how insulting.
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    Lets just face it your never gonna earn decent money in education.

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