The law is perfectly clear.
The law is perfectly clear.
What motorways are you folk with undertaking issues driving on when, then?
I often do significant stretches of M1-M6 and large chunks of that route are often congested: Lanes 2 & 3 are bumper-to-bumper doing 40-50 slamming brakes on every 10 seconds coz they're too close, whereas lane 1 is relatively empty and doing 60-70.
What are you supposed to do in lane 1 then? Keep watching the idiots in the outside lanes and brake (sometimes stop) every time they do? The trucks certainly don't.
[In light traffic with some half-wit toddling along in lane 2 not overtaking something a mile ahead I do the irritated 1->3->1 thing]
So if I'm in Lane 1, on a relatively clear motorway. There's nothing ahead of me and I'm doing 70. I notice that ahead there's a lorry which is going to be doing less than my speed. There is a vehicle hogging lane 2 doing 50.
Are you saying that I should do 1 > 2 > 3 > 2 > 1 to overtake the numpty in lane 2 rather than remaining in the lane where I'm established?
I would always stay in 1 until I was well past said numpty and overtake the lorry by moving straight into 2. I hadn't thought of that as undertaking before now!
Let's put it this way. If numpty in lane 2 suddenly decides he want to be in lane 1 without checking his mirrors (really big numpty) then the accident would actually be considered your fault. Your car should never have been there for numpty to hit.
i cant see whats behind me anyway so i just tend to ignore it/guess what was there when i looked! as i broke the rear view mirror off!!
In that scenario, yes. Forget the law, it's safer for you: A small proportion of numptys actually look in their rear view every hour or two and miraculously decide to move to lane 1 when they see you coming. [But usually it's just afterwards so you get to spend ages out in lane 3 trying to figure out where they went in your rear view before the moving back to 2.. then 1]Are you saying that I should do 1 > 2 > 3 > 2 > 1 to overtake the numpty in lane 2 rather than remaining in the lane where I'm established?
Passing traffic on the left because it is turning right and you have room to do so, it slows significantly while you maintain your current heading, or it is stationary and you can pass safely, are all acceptable provided you do not put anyone else in danger by doing so.
Undertaking because you are stuck behind someone is not acceptable, and will land you a charge of careless or dangerous driving (two years inside, 3-11 points, compulsory disqualification, etc).
Changing the subject slightly - what about roundabouts?
Learning to drive umpty million years ago, I was taught, if going straight across, then I had to move into the right hand lane, indicate RIGHT on to the roundabout, wait until I passed the left junction and then indicate left, taking the second, or straight-across exit. They are now taught to stay in the left hand lane.
Thats fine except that if waiting at a roundabout, I expect the guy on my right to be coming off at my junction, not sweeping past me to take the next exit.
How were you taught?
I was taught roundabouts the same as powdermonkey. Pretty much keep left unless you are turning right or road markings tell you otherwhys.
The important thing with roundabouts is indication. As you pass the last exist before the one you are taking indicate left to say you are leaving the roundabout - saves me waiting like a lemon as half a dozen car's peal off and exit instead of sweeping past me.
If you are going around the roundabout - as in past my exit, you should be indicating right to let me know you are going past. The only exception is if you are part of the main drag going straight ahead on the roundabout and the main exit is not to the right of the 12 O'Clock position (from your POV). Usually this would mean you are indicating left as you pass me. Note that's as you pass and not before - don't make me think you are taking my exist instead of the one after - aagggghhhhhh.
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