elsiegee40 (19th January 2010)
You are not advertising a video but simply directing people to a video you, and perhaps others, might find funny. This invites comments such as "Yes that is funny" or "Not thats not funny". In reality the comments are pretty meaningless.
As discussed above the comments on a job advert are important and could have a negative effect for both advertiser and applicant alike. These adverts invite no comment and really there is no need beyond perhaps a request for more information, which could be handled via PM anyway.
What does actually help, and perhaps what you've not factored it in 'sparkeh', is for people who know the area if it's a different town to be able to comment on salary in relation to cost of living, housing etc. etc.
But no, i'm not influenced either way or put off, by any such comments. Chances are, if someone on here deems it 'rubbish pay', then that particular job for me is a pay cut. So i probably wouldn't be interested, although i'm quite capable of making that decision on me own. Although i think posters tend to elaborate a bit more than that if they do feel compelled to comment....
Having said all that, i have no objection to such threads being locked if that's the proposal, it's more important for edugeekers to be made aware of such jobs. So appreciation goes out to posters like IanT who has posted some jobs on here that they've come across. wouldn't want to stop that from continuing....
Would it not then be a better option to have the Jobs as a seperate entity which would have seperate adverts inside which would then generate their own thread so the advert for that job remains at the top of the thread?
Personally If I put an advert up I would like people to comment on the wage/experience level since I guess I would want to employ someone who is capable and happy with the remuneration.
But then again that's just me.
EDIT: of course wage levels differ around the country so some people might need to understand that better before posting.
The thing is, what you all don't see is the number of problems the mods have had to deal with on the jobs threads. Not just people getting 'upset' (and they do have a right to do this, so sneering comments are really not needed), but also people pulling ads for perfectly good jobs because any remark they make is pounced on by the, er, more combative members.
Comments about money are all very well but there are other threads about the sort of salaries you might expect in different parts of the country.
I'm sure the powers-that-be will soon come up with an idea.
It needs to be more professional IMHO
As has been said - you don't comment on a job in the paper by writing in to the paper. What we are after is a proper jobs list that is easily accessible so that employers will feel confident that if they post here, the job will be seen and responded to by people interested. Surely that is for the benefit of all?
Last edited by witch; 19th January 2010 at 05:21 PM.
With a newspaper, the poster wouldn't get that great feedback or hear the discussion. On a forum, they do - bonus.
If we do want to be taken increasingly seriously as a community of professionals then yes we have to act professional.
I think a separate jobs list is a good idea. Perhaps it needs some kind of proforma for advertisers to fill out so that certain things are covered e.g. "Contact this person for more details".
It has been mentioned about us all being a little more professional in our approach to job adverts and in some cases I agree, but also it would benefit all of us if the Job advertised were of a professional format and and not put together in such fashion as to display the inadequacies of the actual employer who is posting the job.
Some of the adverts are to be honest, not very well put together and it may be that Edugeek could offer their expertise in putting together an advert as kind of a service, what do other members think?
mattx (19th January 2010)
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