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    Public sector employees to get ripped off, again

    BBC News - Darling raises National Insurance in pre-Budget report

    1% increment cap from 2011 for 2 years. So, effectively, those people who effectively got pay cuts in the last few years due to below RPI pay increases will be stuck on lower than they should be pay.

    Not only that, but he's capping the only thing that people could ever turn around and say was a major perk for us - our pensions contributions by the local govt.

    This idea that the broadest shoulders will bear most of the costs is nonsense - these sort of changes affect the many low paid local government employees a lot more.

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    Makes me glad that I am no longer in the public sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard_s View Post
    Makes me glad that I am no longer in the public sector.
    Makes me glad ive only got a year left here before the managed service comes in. Hopefully get TUPEd into a job with a career path and will be taking my pension out as a nice lumper.

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    It's a disaster really but a pay cap is probably the only way to avoid mass redundancy in the public sector, the treasury really is on its knees.
    The government (this one and the last one) really only have themselves to blame for allowing the banks to run riot. I think the whole bonus thing is a bit annoying but a vote winning non issue the issue was banks lending endless money to people who couldn't repay it. , then the treasury having to bail them out to make sure rich people got their money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard_s View Post
    Makes me glad that I am no longer in the public sector.
    This... (sorry)

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    Yeah, not only that but National Insurance goes up 0.5% as well
    Yes it is only for those on 20k and above, but that is well below the national average wage, so their argument that they are just taxing the rich is complete rubbish.

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    Is there a definition anywhere of what is and is not in the public sector? Surely not everybody in the public sector is included otherwise it would include RBS

    BBC News had a nice animation of the 90 billion a year shortfall, you have 3 options you can either reduce public spending (severely reduce it, unpopular) or raise taxes (basic tax rate would need to double to 40%, VERY UNPOPULAR) or just keep borrowing money and spending as if nothing is wrong (the bury your head in the sand approach).

    Looks like the governement have chose option 3.
    Last edited by somabc; 9th December 2009 at 05:44 PM.

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    I am sick of this country. Reckless bankers who screwed this country over so we have pump billions of public money into the banks wrecking the public finances are still being paid bonuses in vast excess of what most people earn whilst the lowest paid workers who toil away doing jobs that are important for the common good but not recognised are shafted again.

    Great, aren't we clever
    Seriously thinking about leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teejay View Post
    Yeah, not only that but National Insurance goes up 0.5% as well
    Yes it is only for those on 20k and above, but that is well below the national average wage, so their argument that they are just taxing the rich is complete rubbish.


    It should really of been 25-30+. At the end of the day the government knows that the poor don't have ways to avoid paying taxes like the rich so you collect more revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Seriously thinking about leaving.
    It has rekindled my desire to do this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    It should really of been 25-30+. At the end of the day the government knows that the poor don't have ways to avoid paying taxes like the rich so you collect more revenue.
    i hope your not suggesting that 25-30+ is the territory of the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somabc View Post
    Is there a definition anywhere of what is and is not in the public sector? Surely not everybody in the public sector is included otherwise it would include RBS
    But RBS are covered with the Bonus tax. And it may be the bonus tax will be felt a lot further down the chain in the banks on those who are not on six figure salaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    i hope your not suggesting that 25-30+ is the territory of the rich.

    No way but it's where I think you can realistically start to get by, anything below that and you're pretty poor. 20k it a bit too low. Like I say though the government know they can actually get tax out of these people.

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    Well, the Labour Party aint gonna get re-elected now and golden spoon boy Cameron and his cronies will show us all how to really feck things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Well, the Labour Party aint gonna get re-elected now and golden spoon boy Cameron and his cronies will show us all how to really feck things up.

    If they can outperform labour I'll be very surprised. It's time for the third way, why we keep letting the same two parties spend alternating terms undoing the others work is beyond me.

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