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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Many of our schools are 100Mbps. It's just that the rest of the internet is not.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    the way i see it, 10mb over 100 computer is pants, 100mb over 100 computers is 1mb each for the internet!

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Not all computers will be making requests at the same time!
    Some people are just not happy.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Quote Originally Posted by StewartKnight
    the way i see it, 10mb over 100 computer is pants, 100mb over 100 computers is 1mb each for the internet!
    True, but as Dos_Box says not all the machines are going to be requesting data. Some wont even be turned on or logged in. Even the ones that are being used wont be requesting data all the time. You have to read the web pages occasionally.

    However if it is becoming a problem there are solutions. I'd start with some intelligent web caching and traffic shaping.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    but then ironic really where isps are now starting to offer 8mb and soon 24 mb connections...

    Russ

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Regional Broadband Consortium ... in our case EMBC. They are starting to standardise on 10 meg installations now (as per the minimum specs that have been recommend by DfES/Becta/etc) for the National Education Network.
    Presumably thats the minimum for secondary schools and not primaries. Whats the minimum for primaries?

    Apparently, some schools in Lancs (not sure if I read it here or not) are on 100Meg!
    Here in Lancs, primaries get 2mb and secondaries get 100mb.
    Off the top of my head, by 2008 all school should have a minimum of 10 Meg, and most secondaries should have 100 Meg.

    UKERNA say it is possible, the RBCs say it is possible, but there is no extra funding available, and no matter how much Becta recommend things to the DfES, the DfES always think it can be done on a shoestring.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Quote Originally Posted by russdev
    but then ironic really where isps are now starting to offer 8mb and soon 24 mb connections...

    Russ
    But they are dedicated leased lines and will suffer contention at the local exchanges. I've done a lot of research into this and if you want that kind of speed on a dedicated connection be prepared to pay 100K plus for it.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    but then ironic really where isps are now starting to offer 8mb and soon 24 mb connections...
    10mb Cable here from Blueyonder. £35 a month. No caps. No distance or contention issues with cable either.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    @geoff

    10mb Cable here from Blueyonder. £35 a month. No caps. No distance or contention issues with cable either
    Has you upgrade been done already then?

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Yes, but I hacked it myself ages ago too anyway.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Yes, but I hacked it myself ages ago too anyway.

    LOL

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Yes, but I hacked it myself ages ago too anyway.
    I don't suppose this is the appropriate place to start asking: "how?"

    Andy.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Such things should be kept to PM's I think.

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    Quote Originally Posted by russdev
    but then ironic really where isps are now starting to offer 8mb and soon 24 mb connections...

    Russ
    But they are dedicated leased lines and will suffer contention at the local exchanges. I've done a lot of research into this and if you want that kind of speed on a dedicated connection be prepared to pay 100K plus for it.
    yes understand that what i meant was schools should be ahead of the game when it comes to stuff like this.

    We should as schools should be on 10 meg connections way before home users start ctaching up with us why.

    As schools we should be leading the technology and up till now we have schools first to gert isdn lines, first to get broadband connections etc.

    So in theroy schools should be getting 10/20/30 meg connections way before home users are.

    But problem is hoem user service is catching at significant rate...

    But then i also see home users buying stuff when not needed most home user s dont need unless 2 meg connections unless they have few comps on it for example home network and do transfer a lot of bandwdith..

    Russ

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    Re: Internet service providers costs????

    Please do not confuse what home users get in speed increases to what schools require in service and 'extras' (static IP's etc).

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