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I am merely stating my believe ...
22nd October 2009, 05:00 PM #46
I am not saying these views are acceptable, or validating them in any way.
I am merely stating my believe that I have the right to hold and express any personal view I desire and it is a freedom I hold dear and believe is worth fighting for.
By extention I believe you also have this same right and freedom.
Watching Sky News and I've just heard something I do agree with Mr Griffin - "they (the protestors) are not stopping my freedom of speech. They are stopping you from hearing my views and making up your own mind"
22nd October 2009, 07:57 PM #47
Gosh. That a significant portion of this thread has nothing better to debate than whether word A is officially racist (According to who? Big Brother?) or not is interesting. Too much ignorance and um.. black & white thinking for my liking, once again it is all **very, very complicated**.
Something I think everyone ought to go research and think about is that "multiculturalism", the un-brilliant concept that has pretty much governed the country's approach to all this is increasingly being pronounced dead. It beats me when it was actually alive, but the point to take from this is that times appear to be changing.
I won't hold my breath but we *might* actually end up with a few good ideas, and if BNP getting elected and on TV helps trigger that then hurrah... anything is better than brushing it all under a carpet and sprinkling magic PC dust on top.
22nd October 2009, 08:43 PM #48
I'll let the picture do the talking:
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22nd October 2009, 09:17 PM #49
I prefer Stewie to be honest closely followed by Brian
22nd October 2009, 09:51 PM #50
If you can't wait an hour.
Highlights from tonights question time:
BBC NEWS | Politics | BNP's Griffin on Question Time
22nd October 2009, 10:06 PM #51
He needs a gimmick (no Nick, those little tashs would be a bit much) and the stupid might fall for some "good ideas" again.
22nd October 2009, 10:14 PM #52
Taking another view point of mine:
....and of course the BBC are loving all this attention. This [ in my personal opinion ] is yet another example of the desperate measures the BBC will stir up [ the media side ]
They have dragged this on for months now along with the Swine Flu clap trap they also enjoyed stirring up. They are now masters at taking 'nothing news' and making it top news. It's turning into a bad episode of 'The Day Today' or Fox news.
22nd October 2009, 10:57 PM #53
Just seen this on twitter
RT @TLHobo: If #bbcqt was an Internet forum, Nick Griffin would ask for his account to be deleted and say he's never coming back.
23rd October 2009, 12:03 AM #54
::shrug:: Sensible people might do some of that research I suggested on the decline of multiculturalism as an intellectually fashionable concept, as opposed to making stupid assumptions about my concept of "good ideas" and whose politics they might align with. Hint: I'm not tory, but they're much closer to the pragmatic Warsi's than Griffin's.
stupid might fall for some "good ideas" again.
Long time no watch, but I thought QT was generally dumb and it certainly wasn't all Griffin's fault. Lot's of pedantic point scoring with peripheral tat, very little on anything of substance. Bit like here really...
23rd October 2009, 12:41 AM #55
ROFL... just watched it around the GF's house....
Glad I did the labour guy saying he is from "Imigrant Stock" but wasn't sure about the guy that asked the question... the guy was black... ofc he is, and no mr labour guy it's not racist to say it either...
OH and everyone ripping into Griffin
What exactly do you mean by this? That multiculturalism is getting less popular? because if so you are very wrong. I & my friends love our multicultural city, would not have it any other way!
decline of multiculturalism as an intellectually fashionable concept
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23rd October 2009, 01:24 AM #56
Well answering the poll a little late because I did watch it.
I'm a conservative cllr. I think that the most important thing we have is free speech and a free press.
Unfortunately Nick is an elected member... and of a national parlament, not just a council like me. And therefore despite what his views are he *has* been elected to represent those people, and in that case should have been on the show....
Letís hope the public who watched the program like me would after seeing it not want to vote for them.
23rd October 2009, 08:07 AM #57
Multiculturalism is good, so long as it also involves people realising that it doesn't mean people creating their own little 'sectors' of cities and refusing to integrate.
Originally Posted by mossj
It definitely isn't racist to want a society where different cultures are respected, encouraged but the people must be able operate in the existing society.
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23rd October 2009, 08:52 AM #58
After voting 'NO', I actually watched on iPlayer this morning - morbid curiosity, thanks to this thread - and I'm gald I did.
First we had Comical Ali, Then George Dub-ya Bush, and now....
Oh, you mean he beats the carp out of black guys?
he was the leader of an almost non-violent KKK
He actually used that in a sentance. My god, comdey gold - you couldn't write this stuff! I've an induring image of the Village People marching on Downing Street, thanks Nick!
23rd October 2009, 09:01 AM #59
The whole programme was focused on things that we already know about Nick Griffin and the BNP; nothing was discussed on the concerns of those people which makes them vote for the BNP. It was just a character assassination.
And a balanced audience? Lots of ethnic 'minorities' and the rest of them were token white people. Not only that, but the whites in the audience were either lefty 'right on' students, or toff middle England types who believe everything is tickittyboo because they are personally unaffected by mass immigration.
Why didn't they ask his policies on real topics such as the NHS, the economy etc anything which would PROVE he has no clue about actually running a country and would be useless if elected for anything?
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23rd October 2009, 09:02 AM #60
The fact you call multiculturalism an 'intellectually fashionable concept', speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by PiqueABoo
Some say you dont have to be a racist to vote for the BNP, but people will knowingly vote BNP racists in to parliment to represent them.
Note to self, dont get involved in political conversations on public forums.
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