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    Google Vs Microsoft debate, check this

    Saw this today- Google planning on taking Microsoft office users.
    Members what are your thoughts?
    Video: Google woos Microsoft users | 20 Oct 2009 | ComputerWeekly.com
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    Although its great having the abiliity to create / ammend and use office type documents online via google docs for sims and other things you still require an installation of office ( what ever the version ) and there is open office but things like sims do not work with open office or other competitors solutions so I think microsoft are still ok on that front.

    Also its down to personal preference with what users will go with and the standard is obviously ms office although the geeks will no doubt either use google docs or open office

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    The internet isn't reliable enough to replace desktop applications 100% just yet, but it has its advantages.

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    Nice idea but I dont see software as a service as being a huge competitor to MS at the moment. Imagine the scenario:

    3 miles away some careless body with a pneumatic drill goes through a fiber optic cable.
    HT come storming in - I'm trying to do an important presentation for [insert important event] and it's crashed
    Phone call from bursar - I'm trying to prepare a spreadsheet and it's crashed.

    Until such a 100% guaranteed internet connection is available it wont work. With a local install i know you can have the app crash but at least you open it and it's back or you can reinstall in 10 mins. You may have to wait hours or possibly days with no office apps with software as a service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_K_81 View Post
    Nice idea but I dont see software as a service as being a huge competitor to MS at the moment. Imagine the scenario:

    3 miles away some careless body with a pneumatic drill goes through a fiber optic cable.
    HT come storming in - I'm trying to do an important presentation for [insert important event] and it's crashed
    Phone call from bursar - I'm trying to prepare a spreadsheet and it's crashed.

    Until such a 100% guaranteed internet connection is available it wont work. With a local install i know you can have the app crash but at least you open it and it's back or you can reinstall in 10 mins. You may have to wait hours or possibly days with no office apps with software as a service.
    This is why 'Google Gears' exists... The online apps are then available offline too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Although its great having the abiliity to create / ammend and use office type documents online via google docs for sims and other things you still require an installation of office ( what ever the version ) and there is open office but things like sims do not work with open office or other competitors solutions so I think microsoft are still ok on that front.

    Also its down to personal preference with what users will go with and the standard is obviously ms office although the geeks will no doubt either use google docs or open office
    IIRC SIMS.net has been confirmed to work with the office viewers. Not to mention the fact that the reporting part appears to be heading towards using MS SQL Reporting instead of the current system - which should, hopefully, allow them to make it more 'MS Office' independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    This is why 'Google Gears' exists... The online apps are then available offline too.
    Fair point. Still dont think it will take off fully for a few years though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_K_81 View Post
    Fair point. Still dont think it will take off fully for a few years though.
    You'd be surprised... Rentokil to use Google's Apps cloud, biggest yet | Technology | Reuters Google wins business customers in Japan: report - MarketWatch Mortgage Choice swaps Lotus for Gmail - News - Software - ZDNet Australia

    There are more and more companies, universities and schools using cloud apps for critical purposes now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Does that synch your docs between the cloud storage ( there servers ) and your local computer that way they should always be both up to date at some point in time every so often ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Does that synch your docs between the cloud storage ( there servers ) and your local computer that way they should always be both up to date at some point in time every so often ?
    I believe so, i've not played with it really - as my internet connection has never been down for me to check it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I believe so, i've not played with it really - as my internet connection has never been down for me to check it...
    makes 2 of us hence my question - you could always disconnect your router / modem lol

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    I would guess Microsoft are keeping quiet and not worrying too much sincethey're expecting a lot of people to be happy with Office Web.

    From what I've seen in pics and info - looks to be very good.

    Office Web AppsOffice Web Apps, the online companion to Word, Excel®, PowerPoint® and OneNote® applications, allow you to access documents from anywhere. You can even simultaneously share and work on documents with others online. View documents across PCs, mobile phones, and the Web without compromising document fidelity. Create new documents and do basic editing using the familiar Office interface. By offering more ways to access files from almost anywhere, Office Web Apps enable you to get things done according to your schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_K_81 View Post
    Nice idea but I dont see software as a service as being a huge competitor to MS at the moment. Imagine the scenario:

    3 miles away some careless body with a pneumatic drill goes through a fiber optic cable.
    HT come storming in - I'm trying to do an important presentation for [insert important event] and it's crashed
    Phone call from bursar - I'm trying to prepare a spreadsheet and it's crashed.

    Until such a 100% guaranteed internet connection is available it wont work. With a local install i know you can have the app crash but at least you open it and it's back or you can reinstall in 10 mins. You may have to wait hours or possibly days with no office apps with software as a service.
    An internet connection is already a "must have" in schools. We don't generate our own electricity if a cable is severed so why do it for IT? Scary (for our job's) but cloud is the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alis_Klar View Post
    An internet connection is already a "must have" in schools. We don't generate our own electricity if a cable is severed so why do it for IT? Scary (for our job's) but cloud is the future!
    Erm, this thread is 17 months old. If you continue to read you will see somebody mentions google gears allowing the software to run offline.

    I agree an internet connection is a must have but internet connection downtime is still more likely than a power cut. No power = no PCs and in all likelyhood means the school closes as it would not be safe for pupils to be onsite when there are no alarms, poor lighting, no heating, no telephony (possibly). No internet means no internet, pupils can still work with offline apps / document storage.

    Despite the thread being so old, I think my point is still valid. While the cloud is the future it does not yet rival MS, although I think their new EES licensing model highlights their own fears about their rivals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_K_81 View Post
    Erm, this thread is 17 months old.
    Interesting. Google docs has already overtaken MS Office in certain depts in our school. There are so many advantages for online collaboration, it is just a matter of time. We already have:

    10,581 Google Documents, 2,838 Google Spreadsheets, 442 Google Drawings, 367 Google Forms, 4,111 Google Presentations and 3,222 uploaded files

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