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    Was'nt it a Monarch LapCabby that 'sparked' (no pun intended) the whole HSE thing in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerpot78 View Post
    Was'nt it a Monarch LapCabby that 'sparked' (no pun intended) the whole HSE thing in the first place?
    I think you're getting confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerpot78 View Post
    Was'nt it a Monarch LapCabby that 'sparked' (no pun intended) the whole HSE thing in the first place?
    yes it was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerpot78 View Post
    It was a joke to try and get in a pun.

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    we've actuly banished staff from removing the chargers in our trolleys, saves us a job
    also our laptop trolleys are brand new, now the plugs are producing carbon monoxide and the manufacturer has turned around and said it our fault :-|

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew_91090 View Post
    we've actuly banished staff from removing the chargers in our trolleys, saves us a job
    also our laptop trolleys are brand new, now the plugs are producing carbon monoxide and the manufacturer has turned around and said it our fault :-|
    As a supplier of many different storage trolleys it would be great to here which Manufacturer you are reafering to as if its any of those that we deal with I will glady go and have words Fella

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    What's the pricing like for the new LapCabby trolleys? Just wondering.

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    Just had an email from monarch and the issue was to do with their older (up to dec 2008) LF range of trolleys (metal frames). They now state the new trolleys (the ones with big rubber handles) is safe as it meets all safety guidelines in agreement with the HSE. Bit happier now as all ours are the new type, still have to state not to be unplugged by a child, notice of any dangers, checks on cables, storage of unwound cable etc but thats OK, I can manage with that!

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    Just had an email from monarch and the issue was to do with their older (up to dec 2008) LF range of trolleys (metal frames). They now state the new trolleys (the ones with big rubber handles) is safe as it meets all safety guidelines in agreement with the HSE. Bit happier now as all ours are the new type, still have to state not to be unplugged by a child, notice of any dangers, checks on cables, storage of unwound cable etc but thats OK, I can manage with that!
    We've got the earlier ones you've described. So.. what are we to be aware of and what needs to be done to the trolleys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    As a supplier of many different storage trolleys it would be great to here which Manufacturer you are reafering to as if its any of those that we deal with I will glady go and have words Fella
    the manufacturer is Monarch

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew_91090 View Post
    the manufacturer is Monarch
    would you mind pm'ing me all your details and I will get onto this with this fella

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    I have investigated our trolleys (which are from Boss) today and have concluded that they are safe, for one simple reason: They are equipped with RCD plugs. The RCD isolates the pins of the plug the moment the power is disconnected, which makes the sort of incident described completely impossible.

    Don't bother with hunka chunka euro plugs, all you need is an RCD. In fact the RCD is probably better.

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    We are replacing our leads with hardwearing cable, so that when it is dragged accross the floor/rolled over by the trolley/kicked...etc it doesn't cause the casing to break and expose the wires.

    Also sticking warning signs all over the place about turning off before unplugging.

    Students do not touch the trolley's plug so no need for the Blue type plug.

    Whilst the plug can/should be an RCD type, this does not stop charge held in the trolley kicking back if the cable is defective. Daily visual checks for the poor science techs who use it as well.

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    For reference when BS EN 60309 outlets are installed for "untrained personnel" they should have mechanical interlocks. Ie they can only be made live when the correct plug it mated. This prevents students inserting paperclips etc and getting a shock!

    Re: plug top RCDs these have a habit of failing closed - in that they no longer function as an RCD. They need to be tested periodically (with a proper RCD tester) and at every use by pressing the test button.


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