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Reply With Quotejohn (12th October 2009)
Actually, kids can behave a lot more grown up than you may think but my take on it was "don't blame the person who put it in or the people operating it" and "try to work with them to get the flexibility you and the students may need."
I also suggest more active monitoring ... by all means trust as much as you can but you *know* that you are going to get a small minority who just *cannot* be treated as mature or having common sense, so the use of things like AB Tutor Control for active monitoring or Securus for passive monitoring is a failsafe. These can be used as part of good classroom management (again, the onus on the teacher to intervene when required).
I agree with most of that article in intent. I would love to believe in accountability and action, cause and effect, but in itself that leads to more work for people who barely have time to do their job as it exists.
But at the end of the day, in a manner of speaking if I don't want my kids to find my stash of porn, I hide it under the mattress and don't tell them about it, akin to direct filtering. Otherwise, it's like telling the kids I do have a stack of jazz-mags, where they are and saying "please don't go see them". They know it's there, and they are in fact kids - curious and devious by their very nature.
I would be inclined to stick my neck out far enough to suggest that if morally, we were 20-25 years ago but technologically where we are now - so young people could be effectively and correctly disciplined, this would be a non issue, and the cause/effect would have the obvious knock-on effect of stopping people doing it via accountability.
Must.. resist.. comment..Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
john (12th October 2009)
lol ... like I said *good* classroom management ... and we all have plenty of tales to tell of the other sort, but I know that I can still go into some schools and see certain teachers and know that they can deal with things. I just wish it was more common.
The main point is that the filter is *not* the only tool ... and some schools actually pass the buck by relying on the filter instead of dealing with problems in the classroom.
A nice bit of censorship from our wonderful government today:
Guardian gagged from reporting parliament | Media | The Guardian
The Guardian has been prevented from reporting parliamentary proceedings on legal grounds which appear to call into question privileges guaranteeing free speech established under the 1688 Bill of Rights.
Today's published Commons order papers contain a question to be answered by a minister later this week. The Guardian is prevented from identifying the MP who has asked the question, what the question is, which minister might answer it, or where the question is to be found.
The Guardian is also forbidden from telling its readers why the paper is prevented – for the first time in memory – from reporting parliament. Legal obstacles, which cannot be identified, involve proceedings, which cannot be mentioned, on behalf of a client who must remain secret.
The only fact the Guardian can report is that the case involves the London solicitors Carter-Ruck, who specialise in suing the media for clients, who include individuals or global corporations.
The main reason for filtering in schools for me is that if you don't have it, *someone* is going to have to spend a huge amount of time carefully monitoring what the students are doing and looking out for cyberbullying etc.
Now, who has the time to do that? Not teachers - not techies
So the children are all left to get on with it, are they?
I think the main reason for filters is that if little Jonnie see's something he shouldn't on the internet and goes banzai then it's not the schools and ultimately my ass on the line!
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