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    BCS Membership

    Even though I am a Head of ICT/ICT Coordinator in a school am I classed as an ICT Professional and therefore allowed/eligible to join the BCS?

    As a lot of ICT Teachers I do not have a degree in ICT or Computing (mine is in Environmental Science) but I am currently studying for a BSc in Information and Communication Technologies. Would I be better joining as a student?

    Naturally I want to join as I do see myself as an ICT Professional - but are teachers classed as this?

    Gareth

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    I've actually been asking the same. Here is the link to the response from UKDarkStar over on Certforums.
    BCS Transformation - spreading the word - CertForums

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    Doesn't really answer your (or mine) question though does it?

    I wonder if I should email them direct.

    GJE

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    Hi Guys

    Back to browsing around here as I'm looking at a job app to a local school and need to get up to speed again.

    My post over at Certforums was to do with the fact that the BCS are looking at closer links with those in education.

    However, membership is on criteria of your experience (number of years and technical competance). From what I've read here I would say that most school ICT Managers who are hands-on involved with their networks and have been doing so for over 5 years would qualify for MBCS (you'll appreciate it's not my decision).

    When applying you do send a CV and are asked to nominate a supporter who can confirm what you've done. As long as you can do this and demonstrate your skill then you would meet the grade as it were.

    There is a new online application form available now on the new-style BCS website too - BCS - The Chartered Institute for IT

    I am always struck by the fact that we struggle to get school IT techs to get involved locally (whether BCS members or not). The BCS is not elitist and focussed just around IT graduates (although I grant it sometimes appears that way). Like anything, you just need to get involved. Do that and you'll find you can link up with many like-minded professionals locally.

    If any of the Dorset/Hamsphire techs want more info then I'd be happy to oblige (I am Secretary & Events Manager for Dorset Branch).

    We want more, and different, members in the BCS to give a broad spectrum of skills and backgrounds - try it and see !

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I think I will look into it.

    GJE

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    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    I think I will look into it.

    GJE
    It would probably be worthwhile contacting your local branch too and making yourself known.

    I think you would come under South Wales which you can find more info on here :

    Home : BCS South Wales Branch

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    Also if person being nominated is Charter status (number on here) then application gets approved/fast tracked (As long meet minimum requirements). I am not Charter status but I am BCS member and need if you need a supporter etc

    I do not think there is any major issue I think you will be fine as your job also included Network Manager etc. Where is Ken when you want him as he is source of all knowledge on BCS??

    Russ
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    Also there is a schools working party within BSC but they where waiting after the transformation to see which direction the party was going.

    Russ

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    CITP it's a bit expensive and then 120 quid a year. I only see it as an advantage if you were running your own business or a freelance IT person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKDarkstar View Post
    It would probably be worthwhile contacting your local branch too and making yourself known.

    I think you would come under South Wales which you can find more info on here :

    Home : BCS South Wales Branch
    I see I need a CV - not done one of them in years.

    Don't fancy nominating me do you?

    GJE

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    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    I see I need a CV - not done one of them in years.

    Don't fancy nominating me do you?

    GJE
    It would be better for someone from your local area to nominate you tbh, hence my reason for saying you should get to know them

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnetman View Post
    CITP it's a bit expensive and then 120 quid a year. I only see it as an advantage if you were running your own business or a freelance IT person.
    Not really. There are jobs starting to appear now using SFIAplus level 5 as the job description and it is very much viewed as being desired by some larger employers.

    There is a whole push from the BCS (the "Transformation") to get Chartered status much more recognised and the system for Chartered approval is changing as well as introducing a comeptancy certificate :

    For those of us who are already CITP (Charterd) the situation is that :

    Existing CITPs (except those who choose to become Assessors) will be unaffected by these changes
    and will retain their current status and post nominal letters. It will be possible for existing CITPs who are currently working in IT and want to gain a Certificate of Current Competence to undertake re-assessment at any time within the next five years. However there is no requirement to do so.

    Details will appear on the website later in the year. Re-assessment will start in early 2010.

    For those interested in the new style CITP download this document to find out about the BCS and CITP (on page 5) :

    http://www.bcs.org//upload/pdf/trans...date-sep09.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by russdev View Post
    Where is Ken when you want him as he is source of all knowledge on BCS??

    Russ

    By all means PM me anytime also. As Branch Secretary for Dorset I am "in the know" on many BCS matters from attending the Member Groups Convention and am also standing for the BCS Council shortly (courtesy of Ken's nomination )

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKDarkstar View Post
    It would be better for someone from your local area to nominate you tbh, hence my reason for saying you should get to know them
    I'll do my best to get involved and to a meeting.

    GJE

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    To be honest i found that even if supporter is not from local area no problem as long as they can vouch for you and your work history.

    I do agree if you can get involved in local group do as this is something I wish I had time to do.

    Russ

    p.s

    Sorry @darkster i wasn't trying to say you didnt know the answer
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