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    School spends 35k on a photocopier!


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    Awful, but not really very surprising

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    35K for a photocopier is absolutely ridiculous. Does such a device actually exist?

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    If you read the article it was apparently a 1000 photocopier - although I'm not sure quite how they managed to get duped into paying 35K for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    35K for a photocopier is absolutely ridiculous. Does such a device actually exist?
    They probably got sold a support contract, spare parts and lots of toner!

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    That whole report is interesting reading actually. I keep going on about 'value for money' at my school and seem to be the only one who really does, as I've seen some shocking wastes of money in the last year - I think the doors that cost 2500 each is possibly about the worst I've seen.

    There's no doubt about it, schools are going to feel the pinch of the financial crsis eventually and there's going to be a lot of changes over the next 12-24 months I feel.

    Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    That whole report is interesting reading actually. I keep going on about 'value for money' at my school and seem to be the only one who really does, as I've seen some shocking wastes of money in the last year - I think the doors that cost 2500 each is possibly about the worst I've seen.

    There's no doubt about it, schools are going to feel the pinch of the financial crsis eventually and there's going to be a lot of changes over the next 12-24 months I feel.

    Mike.
    Please tell me those were fire safety doors with the push bar type handles to open them.....

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    it was apparently a 1000 photocopier
    They probably got sold a support contract, spare parts and lots of toner!
    Yes I did read that it was worth 1000, but even with support, parts, 35K is simply ridiculous. I think there's just a lack of common sense, but more importantly, getting multiple quotes stops this kind of thing happening.

    Maybe school budgets should be head teacher salaries. I highly doubt they'd spend 35K on a photocopier then. The system in general has its problems as it's not their money but public money.

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    Shocking. For large purchases, we generally require at least 2 quotes before it gets signed off.

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    I doubt they paid that, probably a mistake down the line on the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p858snake View Post
    Please tell me those were fire safety doors with the push bar type handles to open them.....
    They are fire doors, i.e approved to various regulations, but normal internal ones and not external ones. Admitedly they are nicely made, but that's a lot of money just for doors - I know they could have spent less and achieved the same end result, and what's more annoying really is they were encouraging me to save a few thousend on the PCs that went into that area, when all along they could have saved money on the doors and let me spend a little more on the PCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    35K for a photocopier is absolutely ridiculous. Does such a device actually exist?
    It was probably on an Evergreen contract with Danwood....

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    head teachers appear to have no idea what value for money means
    Wow thats not a generalisation is it? How ridiculous

    Of course there are Heads who this does apply to but then I've always thought some kind of financial training for Heads is a good idea. I would argue that there are many Heads who this doesn't apply to. My experience is that my schools are short of money and everything is considered for cost vs T&L benefits. I'm not saying we always get it 100% right but then thats not realistically obtainable.

    These blanket statements are no use to anyone (except headline writers).

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    Getting value for money is still down to the individual in most cases, I generally get as many quotes as I can and then either play them off against each other or decide which one gives the most value for money(not always the cheapest) yet our Bursar has just had a quote from our phone provider and is prepared to go ahead and enter the school into a 7 year lease without a single comparitive quote because "they've been good over the last 9 years with the current system"

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    Quote Originally Posted by t_h View Post
    Shocking. For large purchases, we generally require at least 2 quotes before it gets signed off.
    There are plenty of places that don't strictly follow these rules. There are also a few who purposefully ignore them.

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