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    Appraisal and payrise

    Hello all,

    Our school does not have a structure for non teaching staff.

    I've not had an appraisal, one to one review or pay rise for the last 2 yrs or since the time I've been here.

    Is that normal in all schools?

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    Yes [is the short answer!]

    It shouldn't be like tha tho'.

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    Speak to your union. You are being treated unfairly and should be having talks, at least annually, with your direct line manager or other nominated person to talking about your targets for the year, including your CPD... which you are entitled to.

    Failing that ask county to do a job appraisal and if they find someone of a similar job role in another school and you are not being treated in a similar manner then you can kick up a stink.

    If your school has any form of status (Investors in People, Training School, Specialist School Status) then they need to be careful they are not in breach of terms of their status.

    They are also not complying with workforce remodelling either.

    One thing ... when you talk about apay rise, are you meaning going up a salary scale or even something as basic as cost of living increases as negotiated by unions?

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    It doesn't suprise me in the slightest, afterall schools are run by a bunch of teachers.
    Good teacher != Good manager

    Many schools just bypass things like CPD, Health and Safety, software licensing, DPA etc. mostly because the management are teachers, as long as they get their ofstead who cares about minor points like the law.

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    We have that in place but no pay rises for last 4 years for me just the normal cost of living increments that everyone gets. The teachers seem to get godd payrises though. From NQT at 19k to 35K in three years ain't bad for some teachers. And they don't seem to do much else to get these performance related payrises. Me well i don't do much beyond keeping the whole school communication structure safe, reliable and most of all cost effective on the same pay as an NQT teacher but have been here 5 years now.

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    In today's world, all decent (and even half decent) managers know that they should be holding annual reviews.

    This especially applies to schools where monitoring and reviewing goes on all the time.

    Just write a nice (and I mean nice) formal letter to your line manager asking for a formal review of your performance in the near future.

    If for some reason you receive a negative or no response to this request, then write to you line manager's manager include the 1st letter and ask (nicely again of course) why your request has not been actioned.

    If you don't get anywhere then they are terrible people to work for and you need to leave ASAP. (or they think you are a terrible person working for them and they want you to leave ASAP :P )

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
    If your school has any form of status (Investors in People, Training School, Specialist School Status) then they need to be careful they are not in breach of terms of their status.

    They are also not complying with workforce remodelling either.

    One thing ... when you talk about apay rise, are you meaning going up a salary scale or even something as basic as cost of living increases as negotiated by unions?
    Last yr we had a workforce restructuring involving teaching and non teaching staff. You guess we participated but nothing happened.

    Last week I was chosen for the investors in people governor for interview. I told them that the opportunity for training was there, but there is never time provided to take that opportunity up. No appraisal, nothing...

    I've reached the top scale as a technician. Just get inflation pay every yr.

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSi
    In today's world, all decent (and even half decent) managers know that they should be holding annual reviews.

    This especially applies to schools where monitoring and reviewing goes on all the time.

    Just write a nice (and I mean nice) formal letter to your line manager asking for a formal review of your performance in the near future.
    My line manager is in the same boat, he doesnt get appraisal either. Because there is no structure, nothing can be done

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber-Dude
    My line manager is in the same boat, he doesnt get appraisal either. Because there is no structure, nothing can be done
    Well the first thing to be done is to try and get a structure in place I would have thought.

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    Re: Appraisal and payrise

    yes there can first your line manager should be doing it for you even if not a structure in place go over to manager tools podcast for ideas..

    Second your line manager needs to speak to his boss and arrange meeting saying "i want to arrange meeting with you as want to get do some formal feedback and set some targets".

    key is we all get annual reviews each year its if it is written down or no

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