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    Well mine beats all of yours...

    Ancient Toshiba with a P3 and a whole gig of memory. Plus a third-hand 10GB hard drive.

    Still runs thought.

    Hah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    Well mine beats all of yours...

    Ancient Toshiba with a P3 and a whole gig of memory. Plus a third-hand 10GB hard drive.

    Still runs thought.

    Hah!
    You've just made that up to get us all jealous

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    The thing is all a mac, hardware wise is, is a fancy case (regarding desktops) which you can get from china as a knock off anyway that looks the same. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PC (except custom bios)
    People say "oh but the hardware is ace and better then pc" but they dont really seem to understand inside that fancy case is a foxconn board (like dell use) with pc parts but the case allows them to charge much more for those that think its somehow better. TBH the graphics cards I have seen on macs have been very poor for the price and then it still has driver issues.
    The laptops I must admit is where its a bit better for hardware quality, I do like the shell of the laptops but its still not much more then a pc laptop with a nice shell, led keyboard and multitouch pad but without the ability to do such radical things as changing the battery.

    As for JFS, no I dont think 7 has it but with what I heard in the past OS/X still suffers from file loss anyway so its not exactly the dogs and its not like NTFS is hugely bad at crashing/losing files (even though the teachers like the blame the server...). Have a search around apples forums for vanishing files and see as long as apple has not removed the posts.

    OS/X still is not a full 64bit os and has issues with app memory limits as well as not having half the security that windows has such a proper memory randomization (vista +)
    It in many ways is mile behind windows and I dont accept the "they copied the gui" stuff either as its not a big issue as vista was not like mac osx tbh and 7 has its own unique features apple have stolen such as the aero app previews on the superbar which MS did first.

    The reason I want to try os/x on my pc is just to have a play tbh, thats the thing apple needs to cure, a proper cheap mac which makes you think its not a remorgage level gamble to buy an OS you are not sure you will like. The mac mini is a joke and really was a rip off but I hope the tablet version coming in sep (rumoured) will be cheap, netbook cheap tbh. Thats probably one of the best desicions they could make, get you playing/loving it for minimal risk which will only lead to sales of higher end kit. I would never risk £1000 on a mac when I dont even know if I like the os. I know windows can go on it but then its just a very expensive pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    The thing is all a mac, hardware wise is, is a fancy case (regarding desktops) which you can get from china as a knock off anyway that looks the same. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PC (except custom bios)
    People say "oh but the hardware is ace and better then pc" but they dont really seem to understand inside that fancy case is a foxconn board (like dell use) with pc parts but the case allows them to charge much more for those that think its somehow better. TBH the graphics cards I have seen on macs have been very poor for the price and then it still has driver issues.
    The laptops I must admit is where its a bit better for hardware quality, I do like the shell of the laptops but its still not much more then a pc laptop with a nice shell, led keyboard and multitouch pad but without the ability to do such radical things as changing the battery.

    As for JFS, no I dont think 7 has it but with what I heard in the past OS/X still suffers from file loss anyway so its not exactly the dogs and its not like NTFS is hugely bad at crashing/losing files (even though the teachers like the blame the server...). Have a search around apples forums for vanishing files and see as long as apple has not removed the posts.

    OS/X still is not a full 64bit os and has issues with app memory limits as well as not having half the security that windows has such a proper memory randomization (vista +)
    It in many ways is mile behind windows and I dont accept the "they copied the gui" stuff either as its not a big issue as vista was not like mac osx tbh and 7 has its own unique features apple have stolen such as the aero app previews on the superbar which MS did first.

    The reason I want to try os/x on my pc is just to have a play tbh, thats the thing apple needs to cure, a proper cheap mac which makes you think its not a remorgage level gamble to buy an OS you are not sure you will like. The mac mini is a joke and really was a rip off but I hope the tablet version coming in sep (rumoured) will be cheap, netbook cheap tbh. Thats probably one of the best desicions they could make, get you playing/loving it for minimal risk which will only lead to sales of higher end kit. I would never risk £1000 on a mac when I dont even know if I like the os. I know windows can go on it but then its just a very expensive pc.
    Snow Leopard should fix most of that because they are adding support for ZFS ( Think thats the one ) and a number of other things which is why I want to get the new OS Release.

    Hardware wise yea could be better quality and faster I agree on that and I could of gone the same route as yourself with as I mentioned above custom hardware built or dell or hp or w/e but I still did not want to faff about with project 86.

    The other thing is snow leopard will b e fully 64 bit so that addresses that issue

    @ vista was not like mac osx tbh and 7 has its own unique features apple have stolen such as the aero app previews on the superbar which MS did first.

    That's debatable - as far as I was aware they used that from iTunes as iTunes started doing that first and then they replicated it to there finder.

    Either way they keep stealing things from each other so that makes no odds as for files vanishing ive never had that problem since being with os x 10.4 so not sure what thats about - not to say it does not exist but just to say I have been using it for a couple of years maybe longer and not had any issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Snow Leopard should fix most of that because they are adding support for ZFS ( Think thats the one ) and a number of other things which is why I want to get the new OS Release.
    ZFS rocks
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS]ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
    sadly windows users will again have to wait until MS reinvent the wheel

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    as far as I was aware they used that from iTunes as iTunes started doing that first and then they replicated it to there finder.
    Not quite sure what live app previews are in iTunes that are similar? Its not a pic thats displayed but live so you see video etc in motion.

    Either way they keep stealing things from each other so that makes no odds as for files vanishing ive never had that problem since being with os x 10.4 so not sure what thats about - not to say it does not exist but just to say I have been using it for a couple of years maybe longer and not had any issues
    Yeh I think the issues have been licked it was just something I had seen users moaning about.

    As for ZFS, yeh it rocks quite a lot

    The other thing is snow leopard will b e fully 64 bit so that addresses that issue
    I didnt think that was fixed with it tbh, I thought OS/X is 64bit (since pre-snow) if supported but all they did with snow was rewrite the native apps in 64bit (such as finder) but grand central is interesting. As for the upper limits on memory I thought I read that was not in snow leapord, OS/X had/has a hard limit of 3gb (or possibly 2gb) per app regardless of what ram is unused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    ZFS rocks
    ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    sadly windows users will again have to wait until MS reinvent the wheel
    might be wrong on that with 10.6 as just read the wikipedia article and it states

    Complete ZFS support was one of the advertised features of Apple's upcoming 10.6 version of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Server"]Mac OS X Server[/ame] (Snow Leopard Server). However, all references to this feature have been silently removed; it is no longer listed on the Snow Leopard Server features page.

    So not sure if they are including it or not now ( DANG IT ! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    So not sure if they are including it or not now ( DANG IT ! )
    get solaris, at least it's got a common (gnome) desktop and doesn't require specialist hardware (these days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    get solaris, at least it's got a common (gnome) desktop and doesn't require specialist hardware (these days)
    daft question but where do I get that from ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    open solaris or solaris 10 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    daft question but where do I get that from ?
    You wont want it, its free and they don't have big shiny stores

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    You wont want it, its free and they don't have big shiny stores
    I knew that was coming - Don't bother me would be nice to give it a go

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    I knew that was coming - Don't bother me would be nice to give it a go
    Only on the windup

    ... Solaris is on my long list too. Summer is going too fast already!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    I knew that was coming - Don't bother me would be nice to give it a go
    If it's any help you can pay for support contracts.
    TBH I am not a solaris user (I have done a couple of installs)
    We settled on redhat linux.
    Redhat isn't free - we pay £35 per server and can get support. everyone knows that free server software is rubbish. I mean look at the internet, that runs on free software, its rubbish.

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