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General Chat Thread, MIS market share in General; Hi all, Relatively new to these forums but hoping some kind soul might be able to help. Am doing some ...
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    MIS market share

    Hi all,

    Relatively new to these forums but hoping some kind soul might be able to help.

    Am doing some research (I work for a school stickers company) into the MIS sector and needing to know the various market shares of the different MIS systems. Even ballpark figures would be okay.

    I know there are the three big ones (SIMS, Integris and CMIS) but does anyone know of any report into this sector or could point me in the right direction for anything related to market shares or comparisons of the applications themselves?

    Really grateful if anyone can help.

    Regards,

    Nathan

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    According to a report from the DFES in 2005, SIMS.net had 90% of the market share. http://www.capitaes.co.uk/home/downl...ue_of_SIMS.pdf

    That's about all I know.

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    Has a poll been run on these forums asking what MIS's members here are running? If not, may be worth starting one. It'd give you some ball park data to extrapolate from.

    If you run a poll you may want to add

    Phoenix Gold, Phoenix E1, Bromcom and Wauton Samuals to the list.

    I know Norfolk is split almost 50/50 SIMS and CMIS for secondary schools and pretty much 100% Phoenix E1 for primaries.

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    Almost everyone uses SIMS, quite a few of the rest use Facility CMIS, a handful use Integris, very very roughly speaking...

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    Many thanks to you both! Regarding the link to that press release I guess I highly doubt the 90% figure especially if it comes from SIMS itself! I cant believe two other MIS applications can exist on only a 10% market share. (Sorry just realised the articles mentions the DfeS as the source of the 90% not Capita itself).

    Im just surprised no one has published reports/analysis on this before. It would seem a fairly important question I would imagine especially with the move to more MIS presence in schools.

    Re the poll good idea, might do that. Also thanks for the other MIS names, wasnt aware of those.
    Last edited by nathancr; 28th July 2009 at 03:16 PM. Reason: wrong info

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    I assume the DCSF got the stats from the school census, so it'll miss off all the schools that don't do school census. It'll also miss off people who have more then one MIS, ie, I use SIMS for pupil data, Bromcom for attendance, Phoenix E1 for staff data.

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    The Sims share will be very high, but I'd be surprised if it was 90%. Other companies are going to have to be very innovative to get anywhere otherwise!

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    We have around 80% of schools in England, Wales and NI. The next is RM which has a significant share of primary schools. Serco is next followed by Pearson.

    If you ask DCSF they wll let you have the census return numbers.

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    I would expect the RM Share to drop with the end of Integris Classic this year as quite a lot are, I believe, looking to Serco, Pearson and Sims for the replacement over the new RM Integris G2.

    But as for that breakdown its quite large, I expected Sims to be less tbh.

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    I was expecting SIMS to have a larger share, at least in secondary maintained schools.

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    Cool added a poll, hopefully people will vote!

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    Voted Phoenix Gold which is the current MIS we are inflicted with. We are currently evaluating E1, SIMS and CMIS. One of these three is looking very strong but don't want to say which, yet.

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    We use to use Sims & Bromcom, but got rid of Bromcom last term.

    -Ken

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    We used Phoenix Gold, although we used sims.net for the financial side of things.. I only ticked Gold though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    We used Phoenix Gold, although we used sims.net for the financial side of things.. I only ticked Gold though..
    Thanks Rabbie. Out of interest is sims.net the web based version of SIMS? Or how does it related to the regular SIMS application? Or is the actual SIMS application itself?

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