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    *Activates Zombie Apocalypse disaster recovery plan*

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    I remember reading somewhere (or misreading, who knows) that a virus can nowadays travel around the world within about three days.
    Those with a pandemic potential can, like swine flu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    I remember reading somewhere (or misreading, who knows) that a virus can nowadays travel around the world within about three days.
    That's on a Ryanair flight, right?

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    Not ryanair - it would be charged extra surely?

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    You say those statistics as if they're small, but apply that to real people and that is 46.9million people dead if the same percentages were used today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    You say those statistics as if they're small, but apply that to real people and that is 46.9million people dead if the same percentages were used today...
    Which will take almost a third of a year to make up in new births!

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    Based on a population of the UK from wiki 61,612,300 (2009 estimate)

    28percent infected (from earlier spanish flu stats)
    2.5% of infected died

    Total losses in similar scenario are 462092

    That's four hundred and sixty two thousand and ninty two

    That's a little over half the population of Leeds

    2.5% of 28% sounds like nothing until you stick it into real people numbers.

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    That small percentage doesn't seem so insignificant if you or your family are one of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    apply that to real people and that is 46.9million people dead
    150k in the US, 700k in the US, compared to 20 million in India shows its very dependant on the quality of life. Considering this was also at the same time as a world war and at a time of great poverty, even for the western nations has serious effect on the ability to contain and treat the disease.

    Keep in mind the natural death rate the last 100 years in the UK has dropped from 25k per Million to around 8k and the majority of deaths coming before they are 45 to over 65.

    The current 'natual' death rate of InFLUenza in the US is around 60k per year.
    Cancer and heart disease kills more than 600k each in the US now.

    Theorising how many deaths that may happen now is all well and good, but theres a big difference between 1918 and 2009.

    Finally there is still no proof the current swine influenza has the ability to transverse humans yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoZeroAlpha View Post
    Based on a population of the UK from wiki 61,612,300 (2009 estimate)

    28percent infected (from earlier spanish flu stats)
    2.5% of infected died

    Total losses in similar scenario are 462092

    That's four hundred and sixty two thousand and ninty two

    That's a little over half the population of Leeds

    2.5% of 28% sounds like nothing until you stick it into real people numbers.
    But that's only half of Leeds - what about the other half?

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    First US swine flu death; school closings possible - Examiner.com

    Which raises the question if the government shuts the do schools due to a public health emergency do we still get paid?
    Last edited by JJonas; 29th April 2009 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theblacksheep View Post
    There is still no proof the current swine influenza has the ability to transverse humans yet.
    WHO has classed this as phase 4 of the pandemic level. Their site clearly explains what that means.

    Phase 4 is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.” The ability to cause sustained disease outbreaks in a community marks a significant upwards shift in the risk for a pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechMonkey View Post
    As I said above, the 1918 pandemic, although pretty bad, wasn't all that when the facts are looked at. Globally 2.5% of people infected died, so 97.5 people survived. & only 28% of people were infected at all. This was in 1918! I think we should be a lot better prepared and sorted now.
    With the ability to travel faster these days the number of people you come into contact with in a day is vastly increased compared to an equivalent person in 1918 meaning the potential audience for transmission is far greater. Considering the quantity of people who have had the virus I would say that its pretty likely that it is transmitting between humans, unless all these people had contact with the one potential farm its supposed to have come from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    First US swine flu death; school closings possible - Examiner.com

    We raises the question if the government shuts the do schools due to a public health emergency do we still get paid?
    hope so cus my landlord doesn't shut

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    Quote Originally Posted by ascott2 View Post
    WHO has classed this as phase 4 of the pandemic level. Their site clearly explains what that means.

    Phase 4 is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal OR human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.”

    You failed to read their clearly explained site or mark in bold the big 'OR' in your quote.

    Its infectedpig->human. There is still no proof it can transverse humans yet.
    Last edited by Theblacksheep; 29th April 2009 at 03:11 PM.

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