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    Easter Work

    As we break up a week earlier than most and get 3 weeks off (poor teachers) I have managed to start cabling earlier than usual.

    I have currently used a full real of cable and 60+ metres of cat5... oh and used my lovely new SDS drill to drill through 80cm thick walls I love the holidays.

    Now I have just got to work out how to fit the Sanyo short throw projectors to the crumbly walls

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    A full real is 320 Meters any less you have been had.

    And i would be putting no less then cat 6 in.

    Like i have, so i can do GIG and POE with no problems.
    And Cat 7 for 10GB back bones between hubs and servers.




    Why? Coz i can init.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cools View Post
    A full real is 320 Meters any less you have been had.
    No, a full reel is of whatever length it's sold... buy a fifty meter reel, you'll get fifty meters of cable.

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    I thought it was 305metres but nevermind, maybe I've been missing 15m all these years.

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    A standard box of cable is 305m.

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    I think it might be 304.8m - historically, the reels were 1000 feet so I reckon that it will still be that long. Not sure how much the odd 20cm matters (and no sniggering at the back!)

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    Why don't we all just use virtual cable and be done with it?

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    Fibre to the dektop...?

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    Why cable yourself when there are companies out there who will install twin data ports for a mere £60. When you work this out it may take them 3 - 4 hours depending on the run so that works out to be around £15 - £20 per hour. If you on the other hand have 4 twin data ports to install it could take you longer which would in effect cost more overall, when you could be getting on with more crucial work which begs the question why DIY.

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    I have to say when factor in cost of time getting people into to do cabling makes more sense.

    A good example I heard today.

    "You might be able to rake leaves in your yard and do it in 15 mins. It might take local kid 30 minutes. While in time it is quicker for you to do it. Problem is while you are doing that you not doing something else that no one else can do it"

    So be blunt I rather pay someone do cabling so I can be focusing on other things.

    Anyway just lugged boxes to IT Room ready for next week well tomorrow as we start moving computers around from lunchtime.

    Russ

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    I do it because I enjoy it and its nice to have a break from sat at a computer all week, I always do the cabling here except when we have a full refit then the sparky does it.

    Love to see a firm run cables around our school for £60, everywhere needs trunking and there are loads of angles per room to sort out.... its not cost effective.

    I was going to put CAT6 in but didn't want to at this time, its a personal choice.

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    @Simcfc73:
    But it is not cost effective when you measure the time spent doing the job yourself against your pay per hour and that which a company charges.
    It may be personal preference for you but it is costing your school more money and effectively you are paid by us the taxpayer so we would expect good value for money.
    I am not saying that you personally are not effective at what you do and I don't mean to imply anything but given a scenario of say 20 double data ports for a computer suite I would say the company I use would have that done in maximum 2 days whereas If me and my technician was to do the job it would probably take a week approx.
    the fact is 20 X 60 = £1200 for company to do it and 37 X 2 X 18 = £1332 X 2 which is the time spent not doing anything else = £2664.00.

    You can see my point hopefully and do not take it the wrong way this is business sense nothing personal.

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    but we are private school, I only want 12 points and its taken me 3 days to do it.

    The only way it would be cost effective would be of I was not soing other stuff I should be, which I am not.

    Anyway, think I have knicked a cable somewhere so I need to look through the trunking.

    Pub lunches are ace.

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    I find its pretty hard to get anyone in to do a small number of points, I was quoted just over £1k for 8 points(in the same room with dado trunking all round) plus an uplink for our DT lab(in the basement of one of our buildings), the lowest quote I had was around £600 so me and the site manager did it ourselves... think it came to around £250 including a few extra tools, a patch panel and some external cat5(I already had a few boxes of cable left over by some previous contractors).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73 View Post
    but we are private school, I only want 12 points and its taken me 3 days to do it.

    The only way it would be cost effective would be of I was not soing other stuff I should be, which I am not.

    Anyway, think I have knicked a cable somewhere so I need to look through the trunking.

    Pub lunches are ace.

    The private school point is so important... it ups the cost of evrything by 15% automatically as we have to pay VAT unlike our state school counterparts

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