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General Chat Thread, VLE Manager in General; Originally Posted by Chafftech Webman,It sounds as if the school has proper shafted you. You need to get your union ...
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    Re: VLE Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Chafftech
    Webman,It sounds as if the school has proper shafted you. You need to get your union rep in on a meeting with the Headteacher have it properly minuted and discuss job descriptions.
    This is very important, you cannot have a meeting with the head and minute that meeting yourself because there would be no other person to guarantee those minutes are true.

    Been through a similar thing myself, was told by the union that because I went along with it then in law an agreement existed between myself and my employer. Is is not the case now that your employer is the school and the reason you get a local authority pay cheque is because the school contracts them to do the pay system. Anyway cannot remember the term he used to describe what had happend but it all amounted to compliance, you should never change your job title without having a union rep involved. Unison did manage to get my back dated pay for this new post, then I left.

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    Yes, I see what you mean there petectid. I read on the helpatwork UNISON website that if you agree to do a different role for so long that it becomes accepted. However, from my point of view, I have been "tricked" into taking this on under the pretense of it being temporary, but again, nothing in writing.

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    Sorry to hear the problems you are having webman. We are having a lot of fighting amongst staff and magement here at the moment - albeit Teaching Staff but it seems to be something a lot of schools are doing at the minute - bullying to get their own way. Up to now the school has won most cases but I hope you manage to get back what is rightly yours.

    With you not being able to drive you are going to be fortunate, to find employment nearby if you do decide to leave.

    The first meeting / seminar I have heard about the proposed VLE is happening tommorrow by the way. http://www.durhamlea.org.uk/resource...ecord&_Id=1314 I'll let you know if I find out any information.

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    Sorry Craig. Can you clear a few things up:

    Are you being payed less now than you were when you were officially an ICT Technician?

    Are you still doing ICT Technician tasks despite being a VLE Manager?

    Do you want to return to being an ICT Technician?

    Is your new role not challenging enough even though you may have the same benefits and T&C as before?


    Unless you are being paid less or have less benefits, I can't see how the school has benefited from changing your role.

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    Re: VLE Manager

    @webman: Surely if your contract states that you are an IT Technician, then that's exactly what you are?

    If the school does not plan to replace you, what will they do when a computer breaks down? The VLE Manager should not be expected to fix the problem.

    Also, the role IMHO of VLE Manager carries far more responsibility and as such should attract a greater amount of remuneration too. You should also be sent on ALL relevent courses and provide training for teaching staff so that they can convert their existing lesson plans and schemes of work into an electronic format.

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    Re: VLE Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkGeezer
    Sorry Craig. Can you clear a few things up:
    Yep sure.

    Are you being payed less now than you were when you were officially an ICT Technician?

    Had pay increase in April 05 (written pay review application) before role all changed, no pay change since then.

    Are you still doing ICT Technician tasks despite being a VLE Manager?

    Yes, but my own choice.

    Do you want to return to being an ICT Technician?

    Absolutely

    Is your new role not challenging enough even though you may have the same benefits and T&C as before?

    Not sure yet, we don't even have a VLE yet so it's difficult to compare.

    Unless you are being paid less or have less benefits, I can't see how the school has benefited from changing your role.

    Neither can I. :cry:

    @Ric_: Yes, that's what I'd have thought but apparently not. IT Support is all handled by the Network Manager alone. Some are wanting me to transfer existing paper resources into electronic format.

    @Sylv3r: Hehe, never noticed that, thanks! It's great how I've been informed of all these e-learning events and seminars in good time! </sarcasm>

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    Re: VLE Manager

    Custom & Pratice used to come into effect after 2 years doing a job. After that period you're deemed to have accepted it on your curent renumeration, although in theory that's supposed to be in line with other jobs of the same responsibility locally.

    Try to get hold of a paid Unison rep and not a volunteer. That's what Teachers would do. For a meeting anyone will do as witness. Maybe a Unison rep would put your case better tho'.

    Are the school trying to do the right thing by you and just keep you in a job - the title an excuse to get payment?

    PS 'the ChuckleMaster' - is that you then Geoff?!

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