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General Chat Thread, MY BBC MICRO WON'T BOOT FROM FLOPPY in General; Ok you might have to Chain load the file. So thats: Code: *CHAIN "something" *LOAD...
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    Ok you might have to Chain load the file. So thats:
    Code:
    *CHAIN "something"
    *LOAD

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    Its been a long time, but I believe you got a similar error if you tried to use a disc written in an 80 track drive in a 40 track one. Sometimes you get dual mode drives with a switch on the back/front to switch between to two modes or even ones which appeared as 3 drives, drive one being 40track and drive 2/3 being either side on an 80 track drive.

    You can use *cat to show you the filenames on the current disc. before using *chain (which can be shortened to *ch. "filename" )

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    For old BBC stuff try "Stairway to Hell"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Try a *CAT first. Is the drive lighting up?

    Do you have any more disks to try?

    It may be a good time to offer my boxed & unused 5.25 floppies!
    Do all commands need the * before hand? because I havent been doing that?

    and the drive is lighting up, and makes some very faint noises.

    When I press shift break the ">" cursor does dissappear but then it hangs and I press ctrl break to try again.

    Have tried plenty discs but no joy. We have more, so I could try some more.

    I'm only 19.. these things we're pretty much gone by the time I was 6!

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    This web site has a load of scanned BBC manuals etc including the DFS error codes.

    Error 14 is "track 0 not found" Given the age of the disc, it's probably damaged if you know it used to work in that machine. If it's just a random set of discs and drives then it's possible you've got 80 track discs and a 40 track drive (or vice versa) - this will give track not found errors

    Have you got any blank discs you could try formatting? That at least would tell you if the drive is working OK (command is *form80 0 or *form40 0 to format disc 0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Try a *CAT first. Is the drive lighting up?

    Do you have any more disks to try?

    It may be a good time to offer my boxed & unused 5.25 floppies!

    If you had a BBC Master you can hook up a PC 3.5" disk drive!

    For all your BBC games, try:

    The BBC Micro and Electron Games Archive - WWW.STAIRWAYTOHELL.COM

    It's a very simple matter to transfer the floppy disk images to real disks to play on a real Beeb. Emulators are all well and good but there's nothing like the real thing.

    While I'm on the subject I must also push this little device from a colleague of mine:

    mmbeeb

    Multimedia card interface. Can be build for around a tenner and lets you play hundreds of BBC disk images instantly!
    Acorn elite is listed on there, how many days of my youth did I waste on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    If it's just a random set of discs and drives then it's possible you've got 80 track discs and a 40 track drive (or vice versa) - this will give track not found errors
    We have got a double disk drive which has switches on the back, but it doesn't light up or make noise or anything.

    Then we have another two drives, one again a double drive. Have tred both drives. One comes up with the error and the other doesn't do anything.

    The second of those two drives is a single drive, and that lights up gives signs of living, but does nothing on screen.

    I'll try dig out more discs

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    tried a drive with the 40T and 80T options

    Despite what mode I put it on it shows Drive Fault 14 at 00/c1

    I want the BBC to work!

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    Also, how do you format a disc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolfea View Post
    Also, how do you format a disc?
    Almost feel like doing a "let me google that for you" but actually, I've already typed the answer just a few lines above ...

    Have you got any blank discs you could try formatting? That at least would tell you if the drive is working OK (command is *form80 0 or *form40 0 to format disc 0)

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    pah, didnt even have a disk drive with my BBC, this is the price you pay for using such new fangled technology

    Bring back the tapes I say

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    Almost feel like doing a "let me google that for you" but actually, I've already typed the answer just a few lines above ...
    Sorry, think I just got lazy and didn't read it all.

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    I typed exactly

    *form 80 0 to format disc 0

    into the bbc machine.
    Had the disc drive connect and a switch on the back set to 80
    the machine stopped, almost to think about it, the disc drive didn't do anything.
    eventually the machine resulted in saying bad command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolfea View Post
    I typed exactly

    *form 80 0 to format disc 0
    Sorry; should have made that clearer!
    type
    Code:
    * form 80 0
    to format disc 0

    I'm assuming the machine has Acorn DFS; if it doesn't then the command might be different.

    Can you type:
    Code:
    *help
    - this will give you a list of the ROMs installed in the machine. I think pretty much all BBC Bs had the connectors for the disc drive but not all had the actual disc controller and DFS (disc filing system) ROM

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    It does have the Acorn DFS

    I looked at the manuals on the page you linked also, didn't really understand much of it.

    I really do know nothing about these machines.

    GUI ftw


    Tried that command, returned Bad Command instantly
    Last edited by rolfea; 27th February 2009 at 02:45 PM.

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