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    Password Hack

    This actually impressed me. It's not a good thing, but if the guy who made it actually made it then his a hacker in the making.

    It's abit like the whole phishing scam on myspace and all that where hackers make a fake log in screen.

    This student made a fake windows login screen. So kids will enter their user name and password and it just stores it in a table. Simple way to get passwords I guess. The only place he messed up was the domain name.. it wasn't right.

    But he has his password blocked and taken to the head of ICT and all that. I doubt that kid made it.. but if he did. He has some knowledge. Bad knowledge.. but knowledge.

    Anyone experienced some clever yet annoying designs?

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    That is why you are supposed to type Ctrl-Alt-Del before attempting to login - it can't be trapped under Windows (although i guess you could install a Windows "lookalike" version of Linux - in which case he would be real hacker material ).

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    I wrote one of these as a student for RM CC2; brings a warm tear to my eye reading that.

    Nonetheless, we've discussed similar incidents on here before and the typical view is to motivate them further into developing their skills in a productive direction.

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    Yeah, the old fake password screen is a pretty old trick. There used to be e few programs that did this back in the days of RM 2.4. If we caught a pupil doing that I'd push for it to be taken to the highest level and potentially get the kids parents in and possibly suspension or after school detention.
    Hacking of that kind is a serious criminal offence. Just imaging if the pupil had got their hands on a teacher password (or worse a system admin password) by using that tool. You need to make a serious example of them IMO

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    Hacking of that kind is a serious criminal offence. Just imaging if the pupil had got their hands on a teacher password (or worse a system admin password) by using that tool. You need to make a serious example of them IMO
    I did, but I was one of those people who then went along and owned up to it as a matter of improving security.

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    I have seem these been used



    Plug them between the PC and keyboard and it logs everything. This is the best way in my opinion you are not using a fake login screen you are using the real one. You dont even need to touch software on the OS. all you do is spend a few seconds plugging it in and then unplug it later.

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    Yep, hardware keyloggers, not seen one of them being used at our place yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmount View Post
    I did, but I was one of those people who then went along and owned up to it as a matter of improving security.
    Oh yeah, , a likely story....That's what they all say when you catch them.. "Oh, I was just trying to help by testing your system security to see if it would prevent me hacking the network!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinghaggis View Post
    Oh yeah, , a likely story....That's what they all say when you catch them.. "Oh, I was just trying to help by testing your system security to see if it would prevent me hacking the network!"

    A friend of ours is a copper. He gets lots of shoplifters saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    I have seem these been used



    Plug them between the PC and keyboard and it logs everything. This is the best way in my opinion you are not using a fake login screen you are using the real one. You dont even need to touch software on the OS. all you do is spend a few seconds plugging it in and then unplug it later.
    Why you don't let kids touch the back of computers

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt40k View Post
    Why you don't let kids touch the back of computers
    Not my current school, they can't get to them.

    In another school i was at some computers you could get to the cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmount View Post
    I wrote one of these as a student for RM CC2; brings a warm tear to my eye reading that.

    Nonetheless, we've discussed similar incidents on here before and the typical view is to motivate them further into developing their skills in a productive direction.
    I was just going to say I remember dealing with fake CC2 screens at the college I used to be IT manager at. The college used to take a dim view and suspend them for a week!

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    Aye, thing was we did it to show up the holes, not for malice.

    Things change though, poacher turned gamekeeper now!

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