Hahaha, just when I think this is the worst day ever, the spade slapper pulls out the community chest. Fantastic!!!
Unemployment does have its pros and cons, for a start you can't get made redundant if you are unemployed, which is a plus and being unemployed and getting into a rut can be very undermining.
I am sympathetic to those that are ill, either mentally or physically or have a similar mitigating dispossision, BUT in my experience a vast majority are unmotivated, disintrested and detached from real life. They are blithly unaware that it is those that work that provide for them and in a lot of cases they do not give a damn.
I hear the arguments and read the comments and most of them do not hold water.
Take for example the case that they live in a high unemployment area or there are not any jobs for them. Well correct me if I am wrong bot about a millioon jobs over the past few years have been filled with eastern europeans, and other ethinic workers who in a lot of cases do live in 'REAL' poverty and that is what motivates them to get off thier arses and do something about it.
The main problem is that these people who leach of the state have no reason to get a job, so why bother when the likes of you and me pay our taxes etc which allows them to do NOTHING.
I was brought up in a house with four brothers in one bedroom, two sisters in the other and mum and dad in the other, have gone through two recessions, high unemployment, high intrest rates, have been very very ill on a number of ocassions which has left me with permanent disabilities, and the last time I got a job I moved 170 miles
But guess what, I have brought up two children and provided for them and they are now at University.
So sorry, I have no sympathy with those that are fit and able that leach of society because they can, and then they moan about it. Most do not have a clue about real hardship.
I do suspect though that things may get pretty tough in the next year or so????
Until you've lived these kids lives it isn't very fair to make judgement. Sure there are lazy people but I'm proud that I live in a country where I have the freedom not to work if I don't want to and the chance to work and achieve if I do.
Of course the system will be abused. What are you suggesting? We take it away?
People that can work should, of course they should but you've got to see it as a complicated issue not as a Daily Mail headline.
torledo (14th January 2009)
Behave yourself you've made me wet myself (spilt me tea laughing so much)
Give it a few more pages.......I see a Godwins law moment coming
I don't get all this talk about 'areas of high unemployment'. I moved 400 miles for my job. Are people so stuck on staying with the familiar that they would rather not have a job and a decent future?
And as someone else has said - smoking, drinking etc... are not necessities of life.
However, as alex has said, I also have sympathy for those who can't work - illness, disability etc... Those are the people who I am 100% in support of helping financially.
I know there are people who take the mick but there are also genuine cases. My mate, qualified plumber at 18, couldnt find a job when he left college even though he volentered to work for free, ended up working in factories with me. Does he not deserve a 2nd chance at training? The govt. certainly didnt think so. Hes now working as a class 1 HGV driver, trained up by his company, so hes fell in lucky. Got his foot in the door by "who he knew" rather than "what he knew". Hes now earning the princly sum of £19k pa doing an average of around 55hours per week!
It just annoys me when people make blankett statements based on their own very limited experiances. They seem to forget that they are 1 in 50odd million people living in the UK, so chances are their experiances are going to be very different from someone living in another part of the country.
Now im not assuming you are in either of these catagories but someone with a car, a few bob to their name and a supporting family to fall back on is very different to someone without a 2p to scratch their ass with. Again just because it was like so for you.... You could have ended up on the street with no job and no money to get back to your home town.
Last edited by j17sparky; 14th January 2009 at 05:14 PM.
Local, which is what i've been trying to say all along. There aren't any excuses, if you want to work there is something in this country that you will be able to find. There's nothing in this world without some sacrifice and i'm afraid sometimes you just have to take it on the chin. I'd rather not be having to wrap up warm and walk 2 miles to the bus station for a 35 minute bus ride and another mile walk to get to and from work everyday, but I do because I WANT to work :-)
^ So get a car then
And no other country (not even America) gives a damn about their work shy sub culture as much as England and our p*ss p**r band of politicians who are only out for themselves.
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