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    Hard drive destruction 'crucial'

    BBC NEWS | Technology | Hard drive destruction 'crucial'

    Can't wait for my headteachers/home users to tap into this one

    I always love balance in an article

    regards

    Simon

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    Always the balance isn't it?

    These so-called experts really do a number on the rest of us.

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    Lol, that's a terrible article!

    I thought journalists did things like contacting a second source and getting another opinion about things? Which? is not a data disposal expert...

    I'll stick to DBAN.

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    File Shredder

    This is freeware and does a pretty damn good job.

    BTW, think of the average user, think of trying to get them plug an HD into another working pc and getting them to run a hd deletion utility on it. A hammer is much easier to explain and get right.

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    DBAN ?

    Darik's Boot And Nuke | Hard Drive Disk Wipe

    which im sure most of you know about

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    Totally destroying the hard drive is the only way to be completely sure that your data isn't accessible. I think the DOD standard method is to write zeros to every sector on disk 10 times and then remove the platter and sand-blast it. One company that I worked for 10 years ago, which did work for the MOD, would remove the platter and chop it into 4 pieces with a guillotine.

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    They seem to drag this one out every 6 months or so on a slow news day.

    Ironically, one of the SMT asked me the other day how to ensure there was nothing on his hard disk off a recently replaced computer. After explaining how you would need to run a program to fill the disk with random data etc he asked if there wasn't a quicker way, to which I replied "get a sledgehammer?". Skeptically he went through and asked the NM who gave exactly the same answer ;D.

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    Industrial grinder cuts it in 2!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unixman View Post
    Totally destroying the hard drive is the only way to be completely sure that your data isn't accessible. I think the DOD standard method is to write zeros to every sector on disk 10 times and then remove the platter and sand-blast it. One company that I worked for 10 years ago, which did work for the MOD, would remove the platter and chop it into 4 pieces with a guillotine.
    Sounds an awful lot like they are running killdisk on it and then having some fun with the remains.

    To be fair though, I'd quite like to unleash the fury on a few HDD's in this office.

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    Because those smithereens contain environmentally harmful materials, they should be recycled - for instance at the vendor from whom a new hard drive is purchased.
    Yeah I expect that the company you buy your new drive or computer from is going to want those smithereens

    Ben

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    Totally destroying the hard drive is the only way to be completely sure that your data isn't accessible. I think the DOD standard method is to write zeros to every sector on disk 10 times and then remove the platter and sand-blast it. One company that I worked for 10 years ago, which did work for the MOD, would remove the platter and chop it into 4 pieces with a guillotine.
    If I thought that MI6 was after my old drive, I might be paranoid enough to go to those lengths - but if not ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I thought journalists did things like contacting a second source and getting another opinion about things?
    I get the impression that most of BBC News's articles are not written by professional journalists. Next time you're reading the site, keep a check on what proportion of the articles are actually credited to someone. I tend to find it's very low. Talk about lacking credibility...

    What's more, have you ever tried breaking a hard drive using only a hammer? It's possibly the worst tool you could use for the task (other than perhaps Mallett's Mallet).

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    1. Remove platters.
    2. Place in microwave.
    3. Cook on full power for 30s.
    4. Serve on toast with a light sprinkling of herbs and spices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICT_GUY View Post
    File Shredder

    This is freeware and does a pretty damn good job.

    BTW, think of the average user, think of trying to get them plug an HD into another working pc and getting them to run a hd deletion utility on it. A hammer is much easier to explain and get right.
    Why do they need another computer? DBAN is simple - run the app, create a disc, stick the disc in and boot the machine. Choose an option and voila.

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    Journo's rarely double check stuff I can assure you of that!

    What I want to know is how they manage to recover data after a disk has been wiped a good few times, had loads of zeros written to it, and wiped again. I'm sure that all the sectors of the disk would be re-written to the zeros...



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