County Council - moving jobs & pay

[mark80]

Hi All

Bit of a long shot but i will probably find someone who can help me with some advice

FOr reference i will use invented totals but the principle is the same

Scale 5 - £19,000 - 20,500
Scale 6 - £21,000 - 23,000

I am currently payscale 6 on the second imcrement (~£22,000) but moving to a different County Council on a scale 5/6 and the new job require them to start on £19,000.

Now my current boss has said that they think there is a policy within Local Government that if you take a position on the same scale, you start on your current wage ie £22,000 and not £19,000

Anyone know for sure?

CHeers

[jcollings]

My understanding is that it is up to the council concerned but policy is generally that SCPs (spinal column points) are matched.

In my experience I have always had the point matched or in several cases put on the next point up.

[elsiegee40]

It certainly used to be the case with all government and local government jobs... not being a LA employee now, I cannot be certain, but would imagine little has changed

[russdev]

Yes your wage should move if same scale etc as long as LA is part of LGA which all LA are..

Russ

[GrumbleDook]

And as long as the school you are moving to or from is not a foundation school, trust school, academy or CTC as you may not be directly paid or employed by the LA in these schools.

[conehead]

It should happen as you think, but I would try to get it in writing from the HR dept where you are going to, also see if you are entitlied to carry over your past years in local government entitlement to an extra weeks holiday after 5 yrs service, or maybe that's become phased out now in newer contracts?

Another important note of caution, has the area you have gone to had their pay and grading review yet? if not you cound be in for a nasty suprise soon.

ICT staff around scale 6 seem to be getting downgraded when this comes around.

[mark]

It happened to me recently that my pay in the new job was bettered in the new job even though the new job started at a lower grade, as jcollings said.

I also moved from an English LA to a Welsh LA and carried forward my 5 extra day leave entitlement, as well as the probationary period in the new job being waived.

[russdev]

Yes again if not like a school which tony said then if la is part of LGA then your years service gets carried across (that is part of the green box).

Russ

[witch]

I have just taken a job two points below the one I am on in my other job (which I am keeping). My new boss did say that it was lucky that I wasn't being offered a job on the same point as he would have had to pay me even more as I am at the top of that point in that particular job, as it was LEA policy to pay the same if the job is on the same point.

But if you are on scale 6 and the new job is scale 5, is that really the same scale?

[mark]

Of course schools are STILL at liberty to act contrary to LA guidelines. You could pursue it but it probably wouldn't be worth it. Unless you can think of some clever ruse get around it

But if you are on scale 6 and the new job is scale 5, is that really the same scale?

Maybe your boss is thinking the job spans grades, as some do, not actually same scale I would say.

[russdev]

Also should say contact your union and hope most people are in the union...

Russ