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General Chat Thread, Sky HD and television in General; SkyHD is broadcast @ 720P & not full HD IIRC, with no plans in the foreseeable future to do so ...
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    SkyHD is broadcast @ 720P & not full HD IIRC, with no plans in the foreseeable future to do so either. 720P TV's are a lot cheaper!

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    Nope sky hd is 1080i.

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    Sky+HD supports both HD formats: 720p and 1080i. Broadcasters and programme-makers will choose which format is best for their programmes and your Sky+HD box will display the format that best works with your TV.
    Also the reason 720p screens are cheap is due to the fact they are not Full HD. Get a Bluray player in the future and you wont be able to take full advantage.

    On the flip side however there is the issue with SD content. HD screens have to upscale and this can make a HD screen look worse than an SD screen.

    I have had an Panasonic PW6 panel for 5 years and is probably the best SD panel Panasonic have made. Can support 720p and can put some HD screens to shame even now due to the excellent built in scaler.

    I am planing to go the same route by replacing my aging Sky+ box with an HD box first. Need to get an older box though which have the component connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour
    Nope sky hd is 1080i.
    Aren't 720P and 1080i (which 720P panels do usually support) the same thing though?

    1080P is full HD which is what I was talking about, and what a BlueRay/ True HD input will utilize. Hence possibly wasteful to buy a 1080P if you can get a 720P/1080i a lot cheaper, and all you want to do is watch Sky @ low HD. Plus, as SYSMAN says, SD is better on 720P/ 1080i.
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    Why are we getting carried away with 'full' HD?

    720p
    1080i
    1080p

    are all HD and will all look better than SD, which is surely what matters.

    Sky HD is broadcast in 1080i, the HD box sends the signal to your TV as 720p or 1080i. No TV signal is currently broadcast at 1080p. Games Consoles (PS3 & xbox 360) can output at 720p/1080i/1080p, but games are often rendered at a lower resolution and upscaled to keep the frame rate high. Blu-Ray & HD-DVD are the only things that are native 1080p.

    HD is a moving target, just now 1080p is the max but 1440p and 2160p are on the way.

    Image:UHDV.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...esolutions.svg
    Last edited by somabc; 2nd December 2008 at 10:48 PM.

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    I was just pointing out the potential saving meeting the spec somabc

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark View Post
    I was just pointing out the potential saving meeting the spec somabc
    Yeah I was not trying to say anyone was wrong, just that focusing on 1080p as the be all and end all in HD is misguided. Most people cannot tell the difference between resolutions, hell most people don't even know when they are watching HD at all. I wonder how many people have Sky HD, hooked up by SCART because they were told SCART gives the best picture quality 10 years ago. Look at the people who watch 4:3 on their 16:9 screen. Will they understand the difference between broadcast resolution / decoder box output resolution / native resolution of their screen.

    Lets say you your eyes are in good shape and you can tell the difference, buying a discounted TV from an unbranded manufacturer becuase the specs says 1080p can still give a poor picture.

    I think differences in the picture quality of individual HDTVs especially at smaller sizes (<40") will make more difference than 720p vs 1080i vs 1080p. How close do you have to be to the screen to see the extra pixels?

    It's like home cinema setups, you can't always assume the more speakers you have the better, 7.1>6.1>5.1...

    The manufacturer (eg. Linn vs Alba) and the size of your room will make much more difference to the sound.
    Last edited by somabc; 3rd December 2008 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylewilliamson View Post
    ethernet ports and eSATA are there.. but not in use yet.
    as is the usb port under the front flap with the viewing card. When i saw i was so excited but the engineer said no its not in use i was so disapointed

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