Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off

frances · 22-11-2008, 03:13 PM

I nag like mad, but teachers just cannot be arsed to get the kids to log out and turn off the machines. We do have a program called "Power Out" that manages power schemes and turns machines off at 5pm, but its not possible to turn off monitors or projectors using "Power Out". We have 110 machines and there is just no way I can spend my life turning machines off. Also I am pregnant and really tired at the end of the day.

Anyway my cunning plan is to use this program called RSI (Digital Labs :: Remote System Information) to see which machines are still switched on and who the last user was. I am planning to name and shame the worst offenders by putting up a list in the staff room. I do have senior management and line management support on this issue.

kmount · 22-11-2008, 03:26 PM

If you have SLT support go for it.

RSI won't manage the projectors for you, depending upon how many you have, time switches might be helpful for those.

We have a great deal of problems with users leaving equipment on but when it comes to replacing bulbs for projectors etc they pay for them themselves so the effect is sinking in now.

laserblazer · 22-11-2008, 03:26 PM

The problem we have then is that they don't shut them down, just turn them of at the wall.

kmount · 22-11-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by laserblazer

The problem we have then is that they don't shut them down, just turn them of at the wall.

We get this, and often it results in BSOD loops which when it happens to 5 or so in the same room at the same time we make it quite clear we know how it happened and they get to wait for the machines to be re-imaged.

RabbieBurns · 22-11-2008, 07:37 PM

Our trunking in the computer rooms have a master switch which turns off all the sockets on the panel that the teacher switches at the end of the day. Its tucked away behind the printer. Not sure if the students just don't know about it, but to date haven't had anyone turn it off during a lesson etc.

CyberNerd · 22-11-2008, 07:46 PM

Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off......
because they have no incentive to do so.

Theblacksheep · 22-11-2008, 07:58 PM

Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off......

Because its not in their job description. If it was, the union will get it removed.

bgarston · 22-11-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frances

I nag like mad, but teachers just cannot be arsed to get the kids to log out and turn off the machines. We do have a program called "Power Out" that manages power schemes and turns machines off at 5pm, but its not possible to turn off monitors or projectors using "Power Out". We have 110 machines and there is just no way I can spend my life turning machines off. Also I am pregnant and really tired at the end of the day.

Anyway my cunning plan is to use this program called RSI (Digital Labs :: Remote System Information) to see which machines are still switched on and who the last user was. I am planning to name and shame the worst offenders by putting up a list in the staff room. I do have senior management and line management support on this issue.

Hi, I work in a secondary school and my colleague and I were so sick and tired of Teachers leaving projectors on that we were able to set a timer (in the firmware configuration for the projector) so that they switched off after 50 minutes (our lessons are 50 minutes here). I think we were able to do this on all but one very, very old Philips projector... ...and we unfortunately have lots of different brands and models. Worst case scenario now, if our teachers forget to switch them off is the projector is on for 50 or so minutes.

Hope this helps? Cheers Ben

RabbieBurns · 22-11-2008, 10:32 PM

Probably no use in a school, and definately not for use with projectors, but at home I use an IntelliPlug. It cuts the power to everything (except sky plus which i plug in seperately) as soon as the TV drops to standby mode. And powers everythign back up when TV comes back on.

Home

Was half price when I was in maplin one day got it for a tenner or something. Not sure if ive made my money back though yet.

sippo · 25-11-2008, 10:17 AM

We have some teachers that don't turn things off at all ie. Projectors. So they are on all night. The head approached me saying could we do a check on a daily basis so they're not left on. I refused, as it was down to the teacher surely to switch it off as it was their classroom and it wasn't hard!!!

BaccyNet · 25-11-2008, 11:00 AM

Ours dont have a problem switching stuff off....they have a bigger problem switching it back on again!

Andrew_C · 25-11-2008, 11:09 AM

Go for the built in time out on the projectors. If you switch of the PCs, then the monitors (assuming not TOO old) will go into power-save fairly quickly. I know it isn't really OFF, but it is better than being ON all night.

matt40k · 25-11-2008, 11:15 AM

I remember the day when you have P1 which had AT power supplies which you have the monitor power cable connected to the computer power supplies and when you shut it down, you then have to turn it off.

Still we have big isolator switches in each IT room (or rather did, before I left) which was nice and easy. Just be ready to do some work later on.

You can turn projectors off via a serial cable. It's worth doing on new installs (and possiblely old ones). If you think about how much a lamp costs and how much it costs to run a cat5 cable with a rs232-rj45 adapter.

Yet to figure out about monitors. There are 4 bars that shut down your extras when the pc shuts down.

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frances Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead Posts: 39 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off I nag like mad, but teachers just cannot be arsed to get the kids to log out and turn off the machines. We do have a program called "Power Out" that manages power schemes and turns machines off at 5pm, but its not possible to turn off monitors or projectors using "Power Out". We have 110 machines and there is just no way I can spend my life turning machines off. Also I am pregnant and really tired at the end of the day. Anyway my cunning plan is to use this program called RSI (Digital Labs :: Remote System Information) to see which machines are still switched on and who the last user was. I am planning to name and shame the worst offenders by putting up a list in the staff room. I do have senior management and line management support on this issue.

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22-11-2008, 03:26 PM	#2
kmount Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1,649 Thanks: 57 Thanked 132 Times in 129 Posts Rep Power: 34	If you have SLT support go for it. RSI won't manage the projectors for you, depending upon how many you have, time switches might be helpful for those. We have a great deal of problems with users leaving equipment on but when it comes to replacing bulbs for projectors etc they pay for them themselves so the effect is sinking in now.

22-11-2008, 03:26 PM	#3
laserblazer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 842 Thanks: 75 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts Rep Power: 9	The problem we have then is that they don't shut them down, just turn them of at the wall.

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RabbieBurns Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: glasgow Posts: 921 Thanks: 91 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts Rep Power: 13	Our trunking in the computer rooms have a master switch which turns off all the sockets on the panel that the teacher switches at the end of the day. Its tucked away behind the printer. Not sure if the students just don't know about it, but to date haven't had anyone turn it off during a lesson etc.

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CyberNerd Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,451 Thanks: 49 Thanked 151 Times in 124 Posts Rep Power: 39	Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off...... because they have no incentive to do so.

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Theblacksheep Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a house. Posts: 160 Thanks: 12 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Rep Power: 4	Why are teachers incapable of switiching things off...... Because its not in their job description. If it was, the union will get it removed.

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RabbieBurns Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: glasgow Posts: 921 Thanks: 91 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts Rep Power: 13	Probably no use in a school, and definately not for use with projectors, but at home I use an IntelliPlug. It cuts the power to everything (except sky plus which i plug in seperately) as soon as the TV drops to standby mode. And powers everythign back up when TV comes back on. Home Was half price when I was in maplin one day got it for a tenner or something. Not sure if ive made my money back though yet.

25-11-2008, 10:17 AM	#10
sippo Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire Posts: 132 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 2	We have some teachers that don't turn things off at all ie. Projectors. So they are on all night. The head approached me saying could we do a check on a daily basis so they're not left on. I refused, as it was down to the teacher surely to switch it off as it was their classroom and it wasn't hard!!!

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BaccyNet Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 181 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 4	Ours dont have a problem switching stuff off....they have a bigger problem switching it back on again!

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Andrew_C Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winchester Posts: 913 Thanks: 5 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts Rep Power: 13	Go for the built in time out on the projectors. If you switch of the PCs, then the monitors (assuming not TOO old) will go into power-save fairly quickly. I know it isn't really OFF, but it is better than being ON all night.

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25-11-2008, 11:15 AM	#13
matt40k Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ipswich Posts: 535 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 28 Posts Rep Power: 8	I remember the day when you have P1 which had AT power supplies which you have the monitor power cable connected to the computer power supplies and when you shut it down, you then have to turn it off. Still we have big isolator switches in each IT room (or rather did, before I left) which was nice and easy. Just be ready to do some work later on. You can turn projectors off via a serial cable. It's worth doing on new installs (and possiblely old ones). If you think about how much a lamp costs and how much it costs to run a cat5 cable with a rs232-rj45 adapter. Yet to figure out about monitors. There are 4 bars that shut down your extras when the pc shuts down.

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