General Chat Thread, fire in General; do you know of a system where if their was a fire in a school. that a register will be ...
19th November 2008, 10:29 AM #1
do you know of a system where if their was a fire in a school. that a register will be printed of in a matter of seconds.
19th November 2008, 10:33 AM #2
I have been down this road before and it's not a fun one I'm afraid ...
To be entirely honest with you, I don't feel that its adequate to rely upon the MIS to print off a register for a fire drill because what if the fire is in the server room and thus this becomes impossible.
Conversely, printing one off each morning + afternoon and then binning them if not used is an environmental nightmare
19th November 2008, 10:36 AM #3
Print all registers out after morning and afternoon registration.
19th November 2008, 10:41 AM #4
We asked for a "panic button" in CMiS to do it, coupled with a stupidly rapid laser printer.
19th November 2008, 10:43 AM #5
Or, print a list of all absentees. Will use less paper and be quicker to print.
19th November 2008, 10:51 AM #6
well we was thinking of putting a laptop in on recption so that it would always download of all the registers at each lesson time. but the thing is if their was a fire in the server room then the data would be able to be accessed due to the fire some one said if we had an adequete fire distinqisures like they do in a data cente but one that is effective and does not cost alot...any ideas
19th November 2008, 10:52 AM #7
Won't help unless your server, networking kit and wires have some kind of whole new level tolerance of fire to give you enough time.
Originally Posted by Sirbendy
19th November 2008, 11:06 AM #8
We use the same system, if there would be a fire or fire drill then they just grab all the registers and hand them out to form tutors when everyone is at the assembly points.
Originally Posted by timbo343
Anyone who is late in gets signed in by a member of the admin team and is then entered onto the registers.
This seems the most efficient way at the minute.
19th November 2008, 11:14 AM #9
We just bought an incredibly quick laser printer for the school office.
Though as stated, that would be useless if the servers were on fire
What about some sort of script that would export/copy them locally to a laptop each morning/afternoon? That could be connected to a printer via USB and could print out at will
19th November 2008, 11:26 AM #10
Agree with sidewinder. Create a script to copy/export the data you need. Set it up as a scheduled task to run after Morning/Afternoon registers have been taken. Have this done on a laptop, (or even a USB stick) and ensure you have a laptop to take out to do the register with.
In my last place the paper copies of the registers were taken out by someone in the office when the fire alarm went. You could just change this so it was electronic instead.
19th November 2008, 11:28 AM #11
yea we thought of that might be an idea but u still have the problem if their was a fire in the server room
19th November 2008, 11:29 AM #12
Our mis is off site so a laptop with mobile internet access would give access to it.
19th November 2008, 11:33 AM #13
Originally Posted by kevin_lane
If fire is somewhere along the electrical supply you're done for - remember it's not just the servers that have to be powered, but all the components inbetween.
Laptops = difficult to read outdoors in bright sunlight. Difficult to read outdoors in pouring rain :-)
Also, your health and safety person will (should!) go mental at the suggestion that somone should, rather than evacuate immediately, log in, download some files, print them out.
AND, while I am on a roll (sorry!) the laptop and printer suddely become mission critical equipment, with all that entails. And we know how reliable laptops and printers are :-)
19th November 2008, 11:42 AM #14
You would also have a problem if all the paper registers in the front office caught fire. You would have a similar problem if the printer caught fire.
Originally Posted by kevin_lane
You can't cover all eventualities. All you can do is to make every effort to provide a facility to check the register.
Incidentally, do you also take registers after school and require all staff to sign in and out of school each day?
That is often a weak point in many school's fire procedure. If the fire occurs after school or during a holiday, do you know exactly who is on site, who has gone home, and who couldn't be bothered to sign in/out?
19th November 2008, 12:08 PM #15
We have the students line up in form groups. Each tutor has a register for there class. Normally head count works quite well but it helps to have a list of names for those teachers who don't know there class. Just remember to leave some room for new comers
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