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    do you know of a system where if their was a fire in a school. that a register will be printed of in a matter of seconds.

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    I have been down this road before and it's not a fun one I'm afraid ...

    To be entirely honest with you, I don't feel that its adequate to rely upon the MIS to print off a register for a fire drill because what if the fire is in the server room and thus this becomes impossible.

    Conversely, printing one off each morning + afternoon and then binning them if not used is an environmental nightmare

    Sorry !!

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    Print all registers out after morning and afternoon registration.

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    We asked for a "panic button" in CMiS to do it, coupled with a stupidly rapid laser printer.

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    Or, print a list of all absentees. Will use less paper and be quicker to print.

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    well we was thinking of putting a laptop in on recption so that it would always download of all the registers at each lesson time. but the thing is if their was a fire in the server room then the data would be able to be accessed due to the fire some one said if we had an adequete fire distinqisures like they do in a data cente but one that is effective and does not cost alot...any ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirbendy View Post
    We asked for a "panic button" in CMiS to do it, coupled with a stupidly rapid laser printer.
    Won't help unless your server, networking kit and wires have some kind of whole new level tolerance of fire to give you enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbo343 View Post
    Print all registers out after morning and afternoon registration.
    We use the same system, if there would be a fire or fire drill then they just grab all the registers and hand them out to form tutors when everyone is at the assembly points.

    Anyone who is late in gets signed in by a member of the admin team and is then entered onto the registers.

    This seems the most efficient way at the minute.

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    We just bought an incredibly quick laser printer for the school office.

    Though as stated, that would be useless if the servers were on fire

    What about some sort of script that would export/copy them locally to a laptop each morning/afternoon? That could be connected to a printer via USB and could print out at will

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    Agree with sidewinder. Create a script to copy/export the data you need. Set it up as a scheduled task to run after Morning/Afternoon registers have been taken. Have this done on a laptop, (or even a USB stick) and ensure you have a laptop to take out to do the register with.

    In my last place the paper copies of the registers were taken out by someone in the office when the fire alarm went. You could just change this so it was electronic instead.

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    yea we thought of that might be an idea but u still have the problem if their was a fire in the server room

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    Our mis is off site so a laptop with mobile internet access would give access to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_lane View Post
    well we was thinking of putting a laptop in on recption so that it would always download of all the registers at each lesson time. but the thing is if their was a fire in the server room then the data would be able to be accessed due to the fire some one said if we had an adequete fire distinqisures like they do in a data cente but one that is effective and does not cost alot...any ideas
    Hi.

    If fire is somewhere along the electrical supply you're done for - remember it's not just the servers that have to be powered, but all the components inbetween.

    Laptops = difficult to read outdoors in bright sunlight. Difficult to read outdoors in pouring rain :-)

    Also, your health and safety person will (should!) go mental at the suggestion that somone should, rather than evacuate immediately, log in, download some files, print them out.

    AND, while I am on a roll (sorry!) the laptop and printer suddely become mission critical equipment, with all that entails. And we know how reliable laptops and printers are :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_lane View Post
    yea we thought of that might be an idea but u still have the problem if their was a fire in the server room
    You would also have a problem if all the paper registers in the front office caught fire. You would have a similar problem if the printer caught fire.

    You can't cover all eventualities. All you can do is to make every effort to provide a facility to check the register.

    Incidentally, do you also take registers after school and require all staff to sign in and out of school each day?

    That is often a weak point in many school's fire procedure. If the fire occurs after school or during a holiday, do you know exactly who is on site, who has gone home, and who couldn't be bothered to sign in/out?

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    We have the students line up in form groups. Each tutor has a register for there class. Normally head count works quite well but it helps to have a list of names for those teachers who don't know there class. Just remember to leave some room for new comers



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