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Do you allow staff/students access to their school accounts from home. If so how or what do you ...
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29th September 2008, 09:45 AM #1
External access for students
Hi all
Do you allow staff/students access to their school accounts from home. If so how or what do you use to control it. I used to have Sonic Wall at my last school but that was only for a limited amount of staff and Ranger outpost for the students. I don't think Outpost would be an option here because we have Classlink.
Any guidance with this would be much appreciated.
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29th September 2008, 12:50 PM #2 Our staff get their acounts at home by way of local account caching and offline files omn their laptop.
Pupils don't get access outside of school.
Both pupils and staff have access to our VLP for their own personal files (if they've uploaded them in the first place)
Our ISP doesn't allow outside access to our network apparantly (tried various methods of Remote Access, all unsuccessfully).
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29th September 2008, 01:02 PM #3 We use SSL Explorer here. Brilliant.
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29th September 2008, 02:14 PM #4 At our school I wrote my own piece of PHP software to sit on the webserver to dish up files to people from home.
Essentially, to use our site they must login (hooked into LDAP) and from there the webserver hooks up to our file server to dish up files they requested / upload files to their home drive.
Definitely not supplying the source code for that one though
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29th September 2008, 02:17 PM #5
Definitely not supplying the source code for that one though
Why not? would giving santised source code away allow people to bypass your current setup?
Ben
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29th September 2008, 09:28 PM #6 We are currently in the process (started in March on this one) of introducing Citrix Secure Gateway for use by staff/students. That way they not only get their files but can also use school software.
Still waiting for the external access though
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30th September 2008, 08:23 AM #7 We use two seperate terminal servers, only staff account's can log into one, and only student accounts into the other. Seems to work quite well.
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30th September 2008, 12:51 PM #8 
Originally Posted by
clarky2k3
Is it easy to set up?
Do you allow staff and students to connect from home using this?
What about security?
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30th September 2008, 02:07 PM #9 
Originally Posted by
BaccyNet
We are currently in the process (started in March on this one) of introducing Citrix Secure Gateway for use by staff/students. That way they not only get their files but can also use school software.
Still waiting for the external access though

How are you dealing with licensing issues? For example, I know that some of our 'site licensed' software stipulates that it's only valid for one geographical location...
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30th September 2008, 06:43 PM #10 We are using the MyDocuments webpart from Salamandersoft via our sharepoint installation for staff / students accessing their documents from home.
I am looking at rolling out a terminal server with limited applications for our staff in the not too distant future also.
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30th September 2008, 07:08 PM #11 External access
Here at our school, all staff and students have access to the same mapped drives they get in school.
Similar to Friez, I wrote an ASP.NET interface that runs off the back of our mail server. This is setup already with IIS and Outlook Web Access and is externally visible (obviously).
The ASP stuff is deigned to run using impersonation so when a user logs in, the scripts can only access the files that the file server says that user should have access to so security is the same as if they were on site.
The pages they see are similar to windows explorer but only allows users to upload and download files, they cannot delete anything nor create or move directories. This was decided on for security but can be pretty limiting.
Most of the script that decides what drives people see is coded pretty specifically to our network but I am currently re-writing so mapped drives are determined by HomeDirectory property in AD as well as Group Policies (since this is how they are determined on site), this way any changes to GPOs or user properties are automatically pulled through.
Anyone who wants the code for what we have in place is welcome to it, and the new interface when I have finished it. (Should be a couple of months away)
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30th September 2008, 08:48 PM #12 SSL explorer has always been pretty good. Met the lads behind it at infosec a few years back, and you'd go a long way to meet folk as sound 
Other options: openvpn (also available in your smoothwall firewall complete with AD integration - but doable roll-yer-own as well)
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30th September 2008, 08:54 PM #13 Between the two schools i work at many methods of remote access have been used. Including web based VPN.
The best ones we found was terminal server and VPN for staff who have laptops.
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30th September 2008, 08:57 PM #14 there is also a moodle plugin for accessing homeDirectories via the web
Moodle: Modules and plugins
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30th September 2008, 08:58 PM #15 
Originally Posted by
CyberNerd
Does your webserver live in a DMZ?
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