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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    We have a dedicated forum run by me where I can let schools know what is going on without a fax or circular getting 'filed' before reaching the people who need to know about it. When I attend meetings which involve schools IT networks I ask if people need any input and can put their views forwards. We have a dedicated schools helpdesk run for us by our councils IT services dept, which provides a ticket service for schools. From what I can gather we have a pretty decent setup compared to other LEA's. Some are very, very poor apparently.

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    Powys County Council *bow's down* provide our internet feed across a WAN. Last I heard there was a 110Mbt feed from County Hall which is then shared out downwards. The county is quite big and sparsely populated - the lowest in Europe I understand. The backbone is a microwave link.

    We have an LS2 line and all secondary schools have at least a 10Mbt connection. Primary schools are on this system too and because they're so remote some of them, work is in progress to get them up to speed. They've just signed up to a big contract with BT for ADSL.

    The benefits to us are Central firewalling and filtering [response is not too bad - it takes a day for a normal block request or immediate if there's something serious].
    We all have space on a central webserver with as much space as we need.
    VPN is now an option, though because of the expense we're scrambling around trying to find a cheap way of doin' it .

    Our relationship with the central IT dept is not a happy one. They treat us like we're getting something for nothing, which is probably true.

    We also have an internal IT Techs forum [setup by Nathan/Tarquel], but it's not really used much - there are only about 15 High Schools in total anyway. We have a mailing list which has been very useful, and people make good use of that, and we meet quarterly meeting [this may now be just three times a year ] at a central location to meet real people and people 'in the know'.

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    Which county is that Russ?
    *Could you add it to your sig please?
    sorry will add it now leicestershire...

    Russ

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    did i hear my name mentioned?

    10M connection to all schools?

    Yeah, maybe a switch connection but its faster on my 2M broadband connection at home lmao *sighs*

    I'll sort the VPN solution if its the last thing i do - aint paying PCC for the pleasure - no sir-ee ...plus the extra benefits of the kit is gonna be well handy

    I dont think we actually *have* a relationship with the central IT - but popular, we are not, no doubt.

    *giggles at people in the know*

    Mark is used to my usual ranting by the way folks - as always, no disrespect at him

    Regards all,
    N.

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    I suppose we are a bit of an odd ball as we have a 2 meg ADSL connection with Easynet which we have had for a 2 years with a 3 week break when we joined the county grid but pulled out due to crap service. Oh and by the Dos_Box our connection was originally supplied by Viglen who we have used as our supplier for the last 4 years.

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    We are one of the few schools in the area to have a 10Mb BT LES10 service connection, with an internal 100Mb network. The LEA has a central Web Marshall proxy which can be individually configured (or removed) for linked schools. Many schools are to be connected through land and wireless services through the LEA provided service - but to general consternation about the ability of the LEA to satisfy all schools data needs! Its nice to have a 10Mb pipe, but sometimes I wonder if there is anything in it!

    Internally, we have a CAT5e network, fibre linked hubs and dang awful unmanaged EtherWAN switches (from outer mongolia possibly?) - data goes in and has been known to come out, not necessarily in 'order the right'.

    Must say that with the plethora of games (both DLL and web based) and the high probability that a mis-spelled search word brings up some porn pic or text, then a Walled Garden for Secondary is an appealing concept!

    No individual profiles for students (or staff) but I provide a mandatory profile on our (yuk!) NT4 domain network - with the vast majority of users on Windows 2K wkstations. No funds for anyfing more yet.

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithFermor
    No individual profiles for students (or staff) but I provide a mandatory profile on our (yuk!) NT4 domain network - with the vast majority of users on Windows 2K wkstations. No funds for anyfing more yet.
    Finally - someone else with a povvit NT4 domain! How hard is it to lock down?!?!

    Roll on the Summer!

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    NT4 Lockdown (CLANG!)

    1. Students share a mandatory profile.
    2. Students have their own profiles for Netscape & Firefox based on an original with setup of favorites.
    3. Windows 2K has local policy set based on image for different wkstation types.
    4. Local policy deletes local cached profiles, removes name of last logon, hides ALL drives except Student home and shared area (Read only). Access to any local drives is removed - includes CD & FDD. This then forms a precurso to Windwos 200X platform and use of AD.
    5. User accounts all have description with Year and Tutor Group.
    6. Scripts are used to generate new users accounts and set home directory access.
    7. Student home directories are stored under named Year group folders (again to facilitate move to 200X User objects in future).
    8. PDC has responsibility for account authentication & validation only.
    9. DHCP, WINS, SQL, Student home directories, Application programs - all exist on separate Windows 2K Servers.

    It just about works...

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    The NSA guidelines for NT4 security are a good reference too:

    http://www.trustedsystems.com/download/NSAGuideV2.PDF

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    Re: How are the rest of your schools connected?

    I have a newly fitted 10Mbit fiber link from telewest courtesy of the BGfL (o well you cant have it all), theres a big projecto going on where telewest are dropping in about 700-800 fiber links in across birmingham for all of the councils facilities and its all vlanned with QoS. should be interesting...

    as for lan side ive got a gbit backbone (running on cat5e! lol) with 100mbit to all desktops and 80211b/g to the laptops

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