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General Chat Thread, Lifting heavy stuff in General; I have very limited lower body strength..17" monitors I can do. Ish. Not up/down stairs or long periods mind. Had ...
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    I have very limited lower body strength..17" monitors I can do. Ish. Not up/down stairs or long periods mind. Had to move a 22" and 25" CRT the other day. Sod that.

    What I do is nab a wheelie chair and dump it on that, then push that across the building.

    I would say pregnancy moves the goalposts though, and you should refuse to do it on a safety viewpoint. No reasonable person should refuse that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    We had a monitor 'fall' off a bench from only around 3' and it literally exploded when it landed front first on to a carpeted floor....mad a big bang too. Scared the kids.
    I remember when we were ditching a few old monitors (before all the rules of how to ditch that came into place) so we decided to drop them in the skip from about 12 foot high (little IT experiment - no where near the scale of the LHC :P) and nothing happened. It wasn't just one, we dropped about 7.

    We must have bought some pretty reliable kit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by frances View Post
    I have been in my present job a year and I have never had any training in lifting heavy items like 17 inch CRT monitors.

    Anyway I am pregnant and although I can still lift PCs am really struggling to pick up a 17" CRT monitor. I seem to have lost all strength in my stomach muscles. Our caretaker who has done the lifting course is refusing to help me.

    I am still able to do all other parts of my job. Do you think I am reasonable to refuse to lift a 17" monitor. Have other techs had training in lifting heavy objects?
    Well to start with yes that caretaker sounds like a right a** also i would plain out refuse to move the monitor not only are you pregnant you havent been given basic manual handling training so even if you wernt pregnant you will still be putting yourself in danger

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    Firstly, congratulations!

    As others have said, RISK ASSESSMENT. When one of the teachers here was pregnant, she was told she couldn't escort her class up a steep staircase in case one of them fell onto her (seriously!), so I'd be amazed if yours permitted lifting a 17" CRT.

    Personally, I would happily pick up a 17" CRT although I do always make sure that I bend properly and hold it with the screen facing me. And of course, I am not pregnant!

    I don't think you need specific training in order to lift monitors - I *think* that applies at >25kg. One place I worked before gave all staff heavy lifting training as standard in case we ever needed to do it.

    As for my thoughts on someone refusing to carry a 17" CRT for a pregnant woman.....

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    I've attached a couple of PDF's for you and your line manager / H&S Manager to have a look through.......
    The first is direct from the HSE and the second is the NUT's recommendations for pregnant workers!!

    I'm the Manual Handling Instructor for my school and I can tell all of you that it is the School's / Governors / H&S Managers statutory obligation to provide annual training for anyone moving heavy or outsized loads. If they fail to offer you the training and you subsequently injure yourself then they have opened themselves up to litigation.

    Feel free to pm me if you want to discuss anything in the pdf's any further......
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Lifting heavy stuff-hse.pdf   Lifting heavy stuff-nut_maternity_matters7.pdf  

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    As someone else said, just say NO and read the docs from Muppet.

    Good luck!

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    lifting no thanx

    As a follow on I work under North Yorks County Council (ish) rules. on their manual lifting training handout matrix, for a woman the threshhold loads for lifting from the floor is 7kg at your feet, 3.5kg if you have to reach/stretch. ( 10kg/5kg males.) Doesnt say you cant but you need assessment. Post the training weighed my site to site toolkit for a laff!

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    made a big bang too. Scared the kids.
    Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4bob View Post
    for a woman the threshhold loads for lifting from the floor is 7kg at your feet, 3.5kg if you have to reach/stretch. ( 10kg/5kg males.)
    Those seem a little low? A 3.5kg limit when reaching would prevent you doing most things, as even a slim desktop PC is over that.

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    A risk assessment will probably conclude.

    A trolley for moving a heavy bit of kit any distance should be available and it needs to be specified that for the lifting of a heavy monitor or printer two people lift together. That's regardless of sex or fitness.

    I would say you are well within reason to not lift anything while you are pregnant. And congratulations

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    I think what B4bob means is that above 3kgs at reach a more indepth assessment of the procedure will have to be carried out. It doesn't mean that it can't be done.

    See attached PDF, page 10, for further details.
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    When our lead science technician became pregnant last year, there were a couple of options if she wanted to work at a computer,
    1. buy her an apron which would shield her and her embryo from any harmful rays given out by the crt monitor,
    2. get her an lcd monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickJones View Post
    Those seem a little low? A 3.5kg limit when reaching would prevent you doing most things, as even a slim desktop PC is over that.
    Welcome to the nanny state.

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    No training here, first job I've ever had where I haven't had to sit through the nightmare of the "first day training form signing / video watching"

    As for the caretaker not helping others life things.....here, I get asked to help HIM move things!

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    I think you've got all the advice you need so I wont add any more

    But that caretakers attitude is disgusting! I mean I know theres a fair few grumpy ones out there (including here) but even so I would expect them to at least help out a pregnant women!!
    Sorry for the language but what a tosser!

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