General Chat Thread, Lifting heavy stuff in General; I have very limited lower body strength..17" monitors I can do. Ish. Not up/down stairs or long periods mind. Had ...
11th September 2008, 10:08 AM #16
I have very limited lower body strength..17" monitors I can do. Ish. Not up/down stairs or long periods mind. Had to move a 22" and 25" CRT the other day. Sod that.
What I do is nab a wheelie chair and dump it on that, then push that across the building.
I would say pregnancy moves the goalposts though, and you should refuse to do it on a safety viewpoint. No reasonable person should refuse that!
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11th September 2008, 10:21 AM #17
I remember when we were ditching a few old monitors (before all the rules of how to ditch that came into place) so we decided to drop them in the skip from about 12 foot high (little IT experiment - no where near the scale of the LHC :P) and nothing happened. It wasn't just one, we dropped about 7.
Originally Posted by tech_guy
We must have bought some pretty reliable kit...
11th September 2008, 10:35 AM #18
Well to start with yes that caretaker sounds like a right a** also i would plain out refuse to move the monitor not only are you pregnant you havent been given basic manual handling training so even if you wernt pregnant you will still be putting yourself in danger
Originally Posted by frances
11th September 2008, 10:46 AM #19
As others have said, RISK ASSESSMENT. When one of the teachers here was pregnant, she was told she couldn't escort her class up a steep staircase in case one of them fell onto her (seriously!), so I'd be amazed if yours permitted lifting a 17" CRT.
Personally, I would happily pick up a 17" CRT although I do always make sure that I bend properly and hold it with the screen facing me. And of course, I am not pregnant!
I don't think you need specific training in order to lift monitors - I *think* that applies at >25kg. One place I worked before gave all staff heavy lifting training as standard in case we ever needed to do it.
As for my thoughts on someone refusing to carry a 17" CRT for a pregnant woman.....
11th September 2008, 10:46 AM #20
I've attached a couple of PDF's for you and your line manager / H&S Manager to have a look through.......
The first is direct from the HSE and the second is the NUT's recommendations for pregnant workers!!
I'm the Manual Handling Instructor for my school and I can tell all of you that it is the School's / Governors / H&S Managers statutory obligation to provide annual training for anyone moving heavy or outsized loads. If they fail to offer you the training and you subsequently injure yourself then they have opened themselves up to litigation.
Feel free to pm me if you want to discuss anything in the pdf's any further......
2 Thanks to muppet:
frances (11th September 2008), mark (11th September 2008)
11th September 2008, 10:56 AM #21
As someone else said, just say NO and read the docs from Muppet.
11th September 2008, 11:06 AM #22
- Rep Power
lifting no thanx
As a follow on I work under North Yorks County Council (ish) rules. on their manual lifting training handout matrix, for a woman the threshhold loads for lifting from the floor is 7kg at your feet, 3.5kg if you have to reach/stretch. ( 10kg/5kg males.) Doesnt say you cant but you need assessment. Post the training weighed my site to site toolkit for a laff!
11th September 2008, 11:26 AM #23
made a big bang too. Scared the kids.
11th September 2008, 11:27 AM #24
Those seem a little low? A 3.5kg limit when reaching would prevent you doing most things, as even a slim desktop PC is over that.
Originally Posted by b4bob
11th September 2008, 11:37 AM #25
A risk assessment will probably conclude.
A trolley for moving a heavy bit of kit any distance should be available and it needs to be specified that for the lifting of a heavy monitor or printer two people lift together. That's regardless of sex or fitness.
I would say you are well within reason to not lift anything while you are pregnant. And congratulations
11th September 2008, 11:37 AM #26
I think what B4bob means is that above 3kgs at reach a more indepth assessment of the procedure will have to be carried out. It doesn't mean that it can't be done.
See attached PDF, page 10, for further details.
11th September 2008, 12:35 PM #27
When our lead science technician became pregnant last year, there were a couple of options if she wanted to work at a computer,
1. buy her an apron which would shield her and her embryo from any harmful rays given out by the crt monitor,
2. get her an lcd monitor.
11th September 2008, 01:26 PM #28
Welcome to the nanny state.
Originally Posted by NickJones
11th September 2008, 03:53 PM #29
No training here, first job I've ever had where I haven't had to sit through the nightmare of the "first day training form signing / video watching"
As for the caretaker not helping others life things.....here, I get asked to help HIM move things!
12th September 2008, 02:26 PM #30
I think you've got all the advice you need so I wont add any more
But that caretakers attitude is disgusting! I mean I know theres a fair few grumpy ones out there (including here) but even so I would expect them to at least help out a pregnant women!!
Sorry for the language but what a tosser!
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