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General Chat Thread, Moved over to Linux at home in General; Originally Posted by wizzard I already had loads of data on the drive that I didn't want to loose, that's ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizzard View Post
    I already had loads of data on the drive that I didn't want to loose, that's why I didn't mess with any partitions on that drive.
    In ubuntu at least you shouldn't lose any data from existing partitions as it will not format them unless you tell it to, you are really just telling ubuntu that the partion exists and is ntfs then it does all the hard work like setting up fstab

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    Besides, you've got all that precious data backed up elsewhere haven't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    As for xchat + FISH, there's been a perfectly usable FISH plugin for xchat for ages.

    FiSH - Encryption for mIRC, irssi and xchat

    As for binary news readers, I use BNR2. Scroll down a bit on the download page for the linux versions.

    BNR = Binary News Reaper = Binary News Reader

    As for admuncher, again, it's going to have to be a switch to alternative software. I'd suggest privoxy.

    Privoxy - Home Page


    Besides, don't forget, this isn't a black and white either/or choice between Linux and Windows. There's nothing stopping you running one on the top of the other thanks to VMWare. Or the old school approach of dual booting or even having two machines and a dual port KVM switch.
    I dual boot my laptop with xp and ubuntu at the minute. The fish support for xchat is lacking somewhat insofar as auto key exchange crashes xchat.

    Thanks for the heads up on BNR2 I will check it out when I get home; could you recommend a ftp client that supports fxp?

    The admuncher developers are working on a linux version so I can just hold out for that I guess.

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    You might want to try compiling the fish plugin from scratch. There's probably a library symbol problem that's causing it to crash.

    As for ftp, try gFTP. It supports FXP.

    gFTP Official Homepage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Besides, you've got all that precious data backed up elsewhere haven't you?
    Ahem, as soon as I get some more CDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    I dual boot my laptop with xp and ubuntu at the minute. The fish support for xchat is lacking somewhat insofar as auto key exchange crashes xchat.

    Thanks for the heads up on BNR2 I will check it out when I get home; could you recommend a ftp client that supports fxp?

    The admuncher developers are working on a linux version so I can just hold out for that I guess.
    We are GNU/Linux, you will be assimilated!

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    does nautilus support fxp? Not a feature I knowingly used so...

    I used to use nautilus (or konqueror on KDE) for accessing remotely - even does ssh ( ssh:// (nautilus) fish:// (kde) )

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    I use OpenSuse linux here.. its very good! openSUSE.org

    I prefer it over Ubuntu!

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    I once moved completely to Linux (Ubuntu / OpenSuse) and then I moved back to Windows after about a year. What can I say? 99% of the time Windows just works!

    Several updates on Ubuntu caused me problems and a Suse update totally broke my Xorg config. This happens on Windows from time to time but it's nowhere near as often. Also there was the problem of relying on software repositories. Sure, they're great until you run into dependency hell or you try to install something that's just not in the repos. If I have to break out the compiler, Linux has failed.

    Then there's the state of drivers (which is totally the fault of manufacturers I grant you) that just don't work quite right and aren't stable. Apps also feel unfinished most of the time and lack polish / major features.

    Basically, I admire Linux for getting as far as it has but I value my time and Windows takes up less of it on the whole which is why I'll be in the Microsoft camp for a while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzel View Post
    If I have to break out the compiler, Linux has failed.
    If you're breaking out the compiler anyway, it's not a huge step to package your efforts for repository inclusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzel View Post
    I once moved completely to Linux (Ubuntu / OpenSuse) and then I moved back to Windows after about a year. What can I say? 99% of the time Windows just works!

    Several updates on Ubuntu caused me problems and a Suse update totally broke my Xorg config. This happens on Windows from time to time but it's nowhere near as often. Also there was the problem of relying on software repositories. Sure, they're great until you run into dependency hell or you try to install something that's just not in the repos. If I have to break out the compiler, Linux has failed.

    Then there's the state of drivers (which is totally the fault of manufacturers I grant you) that just don't work quite right and aren't stable. Apps also feel unfinished most of the time and lack polish / major features.
    I would suggest the middle road then. Buy a Mac. It's been my standard response to anyone whos asked about buying a new machine lately. So far no ones hunted me down brandishing torches and pitchforks.

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    I'm considering one for my next machine, but only because I can run windows on it as well.

    Got too much invested in the creative suite atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    the programs that keep me booting back to windows are mIRC and newsleecher and flashfxp and admuncher.

    none run well under wine or crossover, so until they improve fish support for xchat, develop a decent newsgroup client and finish making a version of admuncher then I still feel that most of my time will be spent in windows.
    To ressurect an old thread, I have finally now changed my default boot option to Ubuntu. Solved the usenet problem with hellanzb, works really well. I really miss admuncher, adblock just doesnt work a quarter as well, and I dont really bother with iRC any more anyway.

    Ive just found a .deb of flashfxp so will see if that works.

    FlashFXP 3.6.1240 for linux - deb package - Ubuntu Forums

    It required this:

    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/....5.10-0ubuntu1

    Now to see if it actually works...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    I would suggest the middle road then. Buy a Mac. It's been my standard response to anyone whos asked about buying a new machine lately. So far no ones hunted me down brandishing torches and pitchforks.

    I'm on the middle road - quite enjoying it

    windows down my left and linux down my right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    Ive just found a .deb of flashfxp so will see if that works.

    FlashFXP 3.6.1240 for linux - deb package - Ubuntu Forums

    It required this:

    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/....5.10-0ubuntu1

    Now to see if it actually works...
    bah its just wine and flashfxp windows packaged together, and works badly. Ah well.

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