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General Chat Thread, Strike in General; I belong to Voice which is a non-striking union. So I won't be striking but I also won't undertake any ...
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    I belong to Voice which is a non-striking union. So I won't be striking but I also won't undertake any jobs that the striking admin staff would normally do. I will be the only first aider in a school of 540. I have said that I believe this is an unsafe ratio but it fell upon deaf ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.C.Leblanc View Post
    Nope, I just want to see this resolved as soon as possible. Last year I got the back pay in my December (which arrived on Xmas Eve) pay packet. If it's any later Christmas will be canceled, no presents for anyone, no cards, no decorations, no traveling to see my relatives (some of which are in their 80s and might not even be there by next Christmas).

    It's rediculous that we don't get an agreement on pay till several months after we should be receiving it.
    Why not start saving now, just in case?

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    If there is a picket line and you are not striking because you are not in one of the striking unions but feel too intimidated to go to work then you can explain that this was why you were unable to attend work and it shouldn't go against you.

    Ben

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    My views

    Hi

    I have varied views over the strike.

    I am fortunate enough to be in the situation where the pay increase is not that important. I do get annoyed at anyone who moans about their pay but is not prepared to strike for a decent wage?

    What annoys me even more is those moaners who are quite prepared to let others strike on behalf of them but are not willing to join a union or support it themselves.

    If you are not prepared to stick up for yourself then why do they expect others to do it on their behalf?

    So as far as I am concerned is put up or shut up.

    Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexknight View Post
    Hi

    I have varied views over the strike.

    I am fortunate enough to be in the situation where the pay increase is not that important. I do get annoyed at anyone who moans about their pay but is not prepared to strike for a decent wage?

    What annoys me even more is those moaners who are quite prepared to let others strike on behalf of them but are not willing to join a union or support it themselves.

    If you are not prepared to stick up for yourself then why do they expect others to do it on their behalf?

    So as far as I am concerned is put up or shut up.

    Alex
    Old Vulcan proverb..

    The needs of the few outway the needs of the many

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Old Vulcan proverb..

    The needs of the few outway the needs of the many
    Wrong way round :P

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

    Very utilitarian viewpoint.

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    What annoys me even more is those moaners who are quite prepared to let others strike on behalf of them but are not willing to join a union or support it themselves.
    But how do you stop them striking on your behalf if you don't want them to?


    I do get annoyed at anyone who moans about their pay but is not prepared to strike for a decent wage?
    I moaned about pay in my last job but nothing happened so i moved jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Wrong way round :P

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

    Very utilitarian viewpoint.
    Not using Kirk's amendment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Not using Kirk's amendment
    But that isn't a vulcan proverb...

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    Think that was Spock's reaction.. or rather Spock's Eyebrow's reaction



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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    But how do you stop them striking on your behalf if you don't want them to?
    You can't.

    Mind you it would be nice to hear that if there is an increase in the pay award that it will only go to those that have demonstated that they are prepared to take action over their pay and conditions!

    Live long and prosper

    Alex

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    Ok lets get one thing clear

    I am in Unison but im not striking because....

    1) I didn't ge a ballot paper
    2) only 13 PERCENT of Unison members voted, out of that only 55 PERCENT said "yes - we'll strike" - now my maths isn't great but thats what - about 7.5 percent (give or take) of Unison Members?
    3) Most Importantly... Like most other people here, I have Bills to pay each month, I also have to feed my family - (Me, My Wife, my 14 Month old son, and 2 dogs).. I can ONLY JUST do this on a full months pay... If I lose 2 days pay - I will NOT be able to pay all my bills or even buy food..

    Number 3 is the primary reason I am not striking - i just cannot afford to..

    Now if you lot who say we should be striking "cos everyone else is" thinks that this strike is more important than my family - then you need to wake up! NOTHING is more important than them. NOTHING.

    In the current economical climate, and the fact that a recession is just over the horizon, then I think 6.4% is a fantasy figure...

    Im just grateful to be in a job that is, for now, secure (we all need schools) and that pays the bills...

    /End Rant

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexknight View Post

    So as far as I am concerned is put up or shut up.

    Alex
    Never understood that saying - don't they both mean the same thing?

    "Do something or shutup" would be more meaningful.

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    Mind you it would be nice to hear that if there is an increase in the pay award that it will only go to those that have demonstated that they are prepared to take action over their pay and conditions!
    Errrr no i wanted my payrise i've been offered in April all this waiting is costing me money not to mention there's no obligation to back pay it so i'll consider anything won an inconvenience bonus


    and don't forget Gatt that on top of Unisons low turnout some other unions aren't even striking, so i get the feeling that people in general didn't want to strike this time. I think a better approach as the government don't have any money is to tell them what will happen next year to give them time to plan and budget for a better offer, the only way to fund a fantasy pay rise this year is through increased taxation.

    I'd also think the curent inflation issue is temporary, once the recession takes hold inflation will drop and we can all start thinking how lucky we are to have secure jobs as people all around us are made redundant.
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    With the low turn out and such a small majority actually voting for the strike, I can't believe that Unison have actually gone out.

    Two days pay is a lot to those at the bottom end and they can ill afford to lose it.

    This has been the last straw for me; I resigned from Unison yesterday and joing GMB.

    MisterTrimble

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