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    Broadband over electrical network (BOEN)

    For some reason the Guardian Link always seems to appear online about a month after publication, but here's an interesting piece.

    Overheard | E-learning | EducationGuardian.co.uk

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    See Edugeek :-)

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    You get the feeling that many schools will soon be looking at their electrical sockets in a new light - will we have to rewrite the networking specs for Building Schools for the Future, I wonder?

    What do you think he meant by the above. "Here's a great opportunity but I doubt it will be implemented."

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    This technology has been around for years, but has never taken off. A shocking lack of foresight really, networking could do with a jolt from a few bright sparks but there's always resistance to new technology.
    Last edited by ICT_GUY; 24th June 2008 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    See Edugeek :-)
    Thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeswax View Post
    For some reason the Guardian Link always seems to appear online about a month after publication, but here's an interesting piece.
    Hmm - like you say, interesting, although nowhere do I seem to be able to find any kind of examples of price...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICT_GUY View Post
    This technology has bee around for years, but has never taken off. A shocking lack of foresight really, networking could do with a jolt from a few bright sparks but there's always resistance to new technology.
    Oh DEAR...heh..a joule of a reply, with a worrying frequency of punning there. We're currently testing a pair of these for our headteacher who just CAN'T get his home wifi working.

    I can see the potential of the kit, it works well.

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    It does work well, but I would still rather have a building wired with Cat6!

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    Quote Originally Posted by somabc View Post
    It does work well, but I would still rather have a building wired with Cat6!
    But the whole point is that this could span MANY buildings, or "difficult" buildings without additional external wiring. (See other thread for some of the issues involved there)

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    I know the point. I am just not sure that it would be reliable enough to use either internally or to span buildings and hence I would rather have cat6 & fibre used instead all things being equal. I have used some of this kit before and had to deal to network connections that mysteriously stop working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    But the whole point is that this could span MANY buildings, or "difficult" buildings without additional external wiring. (See other thread for some of the issues involved there)
    But surerly this is only useful for old buildings. New builds should have proper routes for network cables planned fropm the beggining. Even if this technology lasts for 20 years thats still 30+ years short of the life of a school, and would leave them in the situation alot of us currently are with our 1950s schools.

    And thats if the technology is equal to cat x and fibre. For all we know in 10 years time the standard might be fibre to the clients. BOEN could hit a technological barrier which means it can only go up to 1gb for arguements sake... Anyway, point is its a technology which should be used to help us with old schools, not relyed upon for new builds.
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    I purchased one of the NEtgear WGXB102 units. 80 later and it arrived. Plugged it in at my router side and one in the lounge where we wanted additional wireless access. Nothing. The two wall plugs could not see each other.

    After some more research etc it looks like old wiring can / does effect the usefulness of this device. Shame really. It does not work through gang plugs either. I can see how this would work in RL, but there are loads of variables to consider for its application. It would work at its best in a new build of a room / building with up to date wiring.

    It looks good on paper, but it does need to be tested in situ if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICT_GUY View Post
    A shocking lack of foresight really, networking could do with a jolt from a few bright sparks but there's always resistance to new technology.
    Very good, hehe

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    There has been a number of initiatives announced lately using powerline technologies. Most use powerline technology as the last hop and combine it with some kind of wireless. Whole streets and twer blocks can be done in one fell swoop in this way!

    Free powerline based wireless broadband for council tenants - 21 May 2008 - Computing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabeaver View Post
    The two wall plugs could not see each other.

    After some more research etc it looks like old wiring can / does effect the usefulness of this device. Shame really. It does not work through gang plugs either.
    Can anyone offer explanations of what might cause this? The only issue I can foresee that could cause problems would be having sockets on different phases. Unlikely at home.

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