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General Chat Thread, Well done manchester united in General; Originally Posted by elsiegee40 The problem in my house was that we didn't actually want either side to win...! Neither ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    The problem in my house was that we didn't actually want either side to win...! Neither team is particularly liked!!
    If your not supporting either team, then your supporting Football - and football won last night, what a game!

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    how can you say well done to a team that has spent millions to win the competition.

    If Accrington Stanley had won, then I'd be saying well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartKnight View Post
    how can you say well done to a team that has spent millions to win the competition.
    Not one to nitpick, but Chelsea tried the same. e.g. £30 million signing Shevchenko didn't even get a game. I think we can agree that you need to spend a bit of money to compete at that level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartKnight View Post
    how can you say well done to a team that has spent millions to win the competition.

    If Accrington Stanley had won, then I'd be saying well done!
    lets be realistic here...no team who have the budget of...accrington stanley?...would win the european cup would they...every team that has ever won the cup in modern times has spent big to win it

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashsnaps View Post
    I am over the moon! Man Utd should of won it in the first half - had so many good chances, fair play to Chelsea they stuck at it. But the better team won in the end!
    I don't think the better team won... the luckiest team won. Lest we forget Chelsea hit the woodwork twice.... where were Man U's efforts? In my humble opinion, both sides played equally well.

    Admittedly, Ronaldo's goal was world class, then he fluffed his penalty! He is an amazing player though.

    Lampard's goal showed the determination the Chelsea team had, in that he pursued the ball to the end, and it was only that John Terry appeared to slip that he missed that penalty.

    I didn't care who won either as I don't tend to follow football, but I thought it was an excellent match, albeit spoiled by a few hyped up players who were unable to control their tempers.

    Drogbar's sending off was warranted - you can't 'slap' a player and expect no recourse, whatever prompted it. I think it will be quite interesting when those teams meet next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by philtomo-25 View Post
    lets be realistic here...no team who have the budget of...accrington stanley?...would win the european cup would they...every team that has ever won the cup in modern times has spent big to win it
    not really...porto 2004...liverpool 2005

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    Out of interest, i had a wee dig.

    Porto 2004 Champions League team:

    Vitor Baia, Nuno Valente, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Costa(c), Paulo Ferreira, Costinha, Nuno Maniche, Pedro Mendes, Deco, Derlei, Carlos Alberto Gomes, Dmitri Alenichev, Pedro Emanuel, Benni McCarthy

    'Pool's 2005 team:

    Dudek, Finnan, Traore, Hyypia, Carragher, Riise, Gerrard, Luis Garcia, Alonso, Kewell, Baros, Carson, Josemi, Nunez, Biscan, Hamann, Cisse, Smicer


    Woulda cost them a few quid? Obviously not quite in the same league as Utd or Chelski's spending, but still...

    I have to admit though, i love seeing big spending teams getting humped by small teams with no budget but big hearts and teamwork. I forgot who it was, but i watched a game with 2 Italian teams many years ago, one full of superstars and one who hadn't changed their lineup in 2 years. The little team beat them. Real have tried the same - a team full of big names and big egos, but limited results (yes i know they won la liga this year though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Out of interest, i had a wee dig.

    Porto 2004 Champions League team:

    Vitor Baia, Nuno Valente, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Costa(c), Paulo Ferreira, Costinha, Nuno Maniche, Pedro Mendes, Deco, Derlei, Carlos Alberto Gomes, Dmitri Alenichev, Pedro Emanuel, Benni McCarthy

    'Pool's 2005 team:

    Dudek, Finnan, Traore, Hyypia, Carragher, Riise, Gerrard, Luis Garcia, Alonso, Kewell, Baros, Carson, Josemi, Nunez, Biscan, Hamann, Cisse, Smicer


    Woulda cost them a few quid? Obviously not quite in the same league as Utd or Chelski's spending, but still...

    I have to admit though, i love seeing big spending teams getting humped by small teams with no budget but big hearts and teamwork. I forgot who it was, but i watched a game with 2 Italian teams many years ago, one full of superstars and one who hadn't changed their lineup in 2 years. The little team beat them. Real have tried the same - a team full of big names and big egos, but limited results (yes i know they won la liga this year though)
    benitťz barely spent 20 mil that season! reŠl were trying to be the harlem globetrotters..they've now got balance and their team plays some good football. barcelona have an ageing defence they're heading towards the direction of ac milan. bring on next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inbir316 View Post
    benitťz barely spent 20 mil that season! reŠl were trying to be the harlem globetrotters..they've now got balance and their team plays some good football. barcelona have an ageing defence they're heading towards the direction of ac milan. bring on next season!
    yawn........

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    its a wonder they won anything with that team

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashsnaps View Post
    I am over the moon! Man Utd should of won it in the first half - had so many good chances, fair play to Chelsea they stuck at it. But the better team won in the end!
    better team won ?!!?!!

    were we even watching the same game....united totally lost the midfield from the moment lampard scored the equalizer, so that's all of the second half and all but 5 minutes of extra time where chelsea were the BETTER team not man utd...

    yes, united should have scored with the tevez chances, but chelsea hit the woodwork twice and overall were the more lkely to win in regulation time....

    That's now the second time in ten years united have won the european cup despite being the lesser team on the night. Both bayern and chelsea had only themselves to blame for not killing off man u. They were there for the taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Not one to nitpick, but Chelsea tried the same. e.g. £30 million signing Shevchenko didn't even get a game. I think we can agree that you need to spend a bit of money to compete at that level?
    the shevchenko purchase had nothing to do with the business of winning football games, it was a vanity exercise by the owner pure and simple. He liked the idea of having the player shevchenko once was playing for his club....if he'd have stopped to ask any football person they would have told him he hadn't been that player for years and wasn't worth anywhere near that....even at his peak he would have been a toss up whether he would have been successful in the faster paced premier league.

    Chelsea do overspend and they have made some shocking buys (Veron and crespo for instance) at inflated prices...but both Veron and crespo as additions to the team made some sense in that they needed some quality in midfield and some power up front.....but the shevcenko purchase made absolutely no sense on any level. 30 million for a player in his 30's who had lost a yard of pace, whose best years were behind him, and who had played in the more sedate italian league for several years.

    crespo could have been a success, veron could have turned things around and he was still a regular for one of the strongest international teams at that time....but sheva was never going to do anything at chelsea. He was a free transfer player at most, pay him 130,000 grand a week and hope he knocks in the odd important goal...but 30 million. unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    better team won ?!!?!!

    were we even watching the same game....united totally lost the midfield from the moment lampard scored the equalizer, so that's all of the second half and all but 5 minutes of extra time where chelsea were the BETTER team not man utd...

    yes, united should have scored with the tevez chances, but chelsea hit the woodwork twice and overall were the more lkely to win in regulation time....

    That's now the second time in ten years united have won the european cup despite being the lesser team on the night. Both bayern and chelsea had only themselves to blame for not killing off man u. They were there for the taking.
    sounds like sour grapes to me mate, anti united by anychance?

    we were better 1st half
    they had the second
    looked to me like we were the better team in extra time
    we won the penalties

    when looking back on previous winners it doesnt say owt about like "2008 - manchester united (but outplayed by chelsea))

    end of story

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    I agree with the Shevchenko post

    Just to put it in to perspective, at the same time they paid £30m for him, we got Kanu for nothing. Kanu has more goals than Shevchenko and they are both the same age now (although its debatable about Kanu being 31 now! 40 more like!)

    We got much better value for our money methinks!

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    I support neither team and watched from a non biased pov but Man U didnt deserve to win. Chelsea were the better team over 120 mins in my opinion and only lost on penalties due to Terry slipping as he struck the ball. If it was a PL game a 1 - 1 draw would have been a fair result.

    At the end of the day a British team won and it was a thrilling game so why argue?

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