General Chat Thread, New Home - Bailiffs in General; Originally Posted by NickJones
@ localzuk re. Harrassment Act. Does that also apply to people from AccuRead who turn up ...
8th May 2008, 02:38 PM #61
Well... It depends if it is reasonable. The crime of Harassment is defined as:
Originally Posted by NickJones
So, it is harassment unless, in this case, it can be described as reasonable. Your best bet is to send them a letter from a solicitor.
Originally Posted by OPSI
8th May 2008, 02:52 PM #62
Thanks Localzuk. Considering how many times I've tried to tell the supplier, I would no longer describe it as reasonable. Recently, I've taken to just saying something like "it isn't here, but there's no point discussing it since you don't work for Utility Company X" and refusing to let the meter reader in. This came after I invited them in once and spent 10 minutes discussing the situation with him before he told me that all he could feed back to Utility Company X was that I had refused to show him the meter!
Solicitor's letters here we come...
8th May 2008, 02:54 PM #63
But you are missing the point. You are completely generalising I'm not saying all baliffs are ok as I know 4 tht are nice people and jc knows some. I am saying that not all bailiffs are the same. Some do the job well and aren't pushy or over bearing.
Originally Posted by torledo
You seem unable to make a distinction between a person and a job, much like the kids do here. But from the looks of you have had some bad experiences (rightly or wrongly) and there is no changing your mind. You seem to hate them for being over bearing and terrorising people (as they all must do) but think the ones that try and be nice about it and help the people are worse. Eh? How does that work. Or is it that you just don't like the exchange of money? Yes their job is to get money, that's because someone has gotten goods or services and not fully paid for them. Following your logic all cashiers are bast*rd cretins, lets go down Tescos and burn the lot of em.
Why people do the jobs they do is a complete different story. I don't see why you would need an excuse to be a baliff. It's a job. Get over it. You may as well say all cops are corrupt power seeking hitlers, there's no reason for them being in that job they shoudl do somethign else. Or the same reasoning for any other job that someone has a dislike for. Traffic wardens aren't exaclty loved and there are a fair proportion that are gets but they do a job.
& how are they extorting money out of people. The people owe the money so it isn't theirs. If everyone paid their debts then there wouldn't be a problem.
A really bizzare attitude
8th May 2008, 03:01 PM #64
You may be right but that doesnt stop them bing scummy people. I watched a program a while ago about iirc security firms. They needed certifying but that didnt stop a good portion of them being "ex"-conmen and criminals. Even in my own village we had a security firm set up, but in reality it was no differant to a mafia protection racket with everything which went with it.
Originally Posted by NickJones
Anyway my point is being certified by the cretins we call our government and their agencies doesnt mean shat.
8th May 2008, 03:05 PM #65
I wasn't trying to say that being certified had anything to do with (not) being scummy - is was meant purely in response to Zoom7000's concerns that it might mean they were the kind of bailiffs who were allowed to break into houses.
Anyway - shall we move away from the 'are they or aren't they w**kers?' debate, before someone goes and says something (even more) libellous and gets DosBox and co (plus themselves) in some trouble??
8th May 2008, 03:56 PM #66
the 'nice' ones are worse becuase it's completely disingenous....it tends to be a good cop, bad cop routine whereby they'll try the 'you're confused..we'll help to sort out the confusion don't worry ' tack, and if that doesn't work the idle threats will come.
Originally Posted by TechMonkey
I can distinguish between a job and the individual...but it begs the question as to what kind of person would want to become a bailif - other than to throw they're weight around and get a kick out of the faux authority.
you cannot always seperate the man or woman and the job they do. I think it says a lot about them what they choose to do to earn a crust.
As i've said there are tons of jobs out there, i know if it were me i'd have trouble sleeping at night if that was what i did day in day out. Read my later post as to why it's not just about collecting money from wastrels who refuse to pay....how effective are these little hitlers in recovering money and assets from those who are liable, as i said those who don't pay they're bills as tenants know how to play the system - it is not them who are being punished.
When you're father did the job it was a very different era, different cirumstances i'd imagine.
8th May 2008, 07:48 PM #67
Got another Debt Collection letter today. I opened it up, final request for an £814 bill to T-Mobile before starting court proceedings. How do you rack up £814 on T-Mobile without getting cut off?
Anyway, a quick call telling them I have no idea who the addressed person is and that I have no forwarding contact or any other info, and I got a "Thank you and we will ensure you don't get any more letters."
He did say they will try to find him elsewhere. Either way, that should be one problem sorted. I'm opening them all from now on, seems to work better than "Return to Sender"
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