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General Chat Thread, Moorside Desktop Fan and A/C Appeal in General; Originally Posted by elsiegee40 You ought to have a poll at the top of this thread.. "Which server do I ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    You ought to have a poll at the top of this thread.. "Which server do I switch off next?..."

    My vote is for SIMS!

    Definitely not all in one go... it has far more impact if they drop out one at a time
    school will have to shut because of no way of registering the childrens!

    Hmmm.... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    school will have to shut because of no way of registering the childrens!

    Hmmm.... :P
    <runs to turn off aircon so we can all go home>

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    They tend to switch to paper registration here

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    ahhh but staff would have to stay!

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    As a responsible & professional member of the team, you should agree a priority list of servers with SMT aimed at protecting students ability to work & staff's ability to teach and plan to shut them down in the order of least priority first.

    Alternatively as BOFH you should shut the servers down in the order that causes the 'decision' makers & budget holders most pain to focus their minds a bit more

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    Im torn between the 2 options....

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    When I arrived at my school 5 years ago, we had an admin server & UPS in a steel unventilated cupboard & it ran 'HOT'. I warned SMT that it would shorten its life dramatically & I was ignored. One day during the summer the UPS batteries went 'pop' & it went down. I replaced the UPS batteries & moved the UPS out of the cupboard. Then the NIC on the server started to play up, then it started getting random memory faults until one day it gave up the will to live.

    I made sure it's replacement was too big to fit in the steel cupboard, it was installed instead in the fully A/C equipped server room

    I think BOFH may yield quicker results, but it pains me as a professional to recommend it .........

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    I'm shocked...

    server room = aircon...I can't believe that some haven't got it! IIRC, Telford Council fitted all "nodal" schools with it for servers at planning stage.

    Ours should be sat at 17, with the backup unit sat at 19. On the few occasions we've had a total fail of the A/C, we've hit the 30s and one one overnight, 45s...the Poweredges have gone red light, but we've caught them before they hit "safety off". Always been a case of opening the window/door and grabbing as many fans as possible.

    The portables aren't great..but they're better than nothing, just.

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    We dont even have a "server" room as such
    they are spread in 3 areas
    A cupboard at the back of 1 room which also has a rack with the LEA switches. it has 1 portable AC Unit with a hose out the window
    we have mnost of the servers in a big windowless room in the middle of the school which has 1 AC Unit with a hose out the wall.. this room has the DCs and SIMS.. as well as about 6 other servers..
    And there is my office... which is about 10' square with 1 window that acts like a greenhouse (faces east) in the morning.. with 3 servers.. and NO AIRCON..

    I'm sweating my knackers off and the servers arent coping..

    Im awaiting on 2 AIRCONS.. so should get them for september

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    1. blinds or white paper on the windows.

    2. Go on a raiding spree for old PSU/case fans, cableties, an ATX PSU, and a paperclip and make up a fan grid array. Noisy, but pretty damn effective..

    We've got..ooh..laserjet 4250, 1 Xerox waxjet, 3 PCs, 2 laptops, 2 humans, a glass wall to outside with blinds, and lots of furniture in here, and we're at a comfy temperature. The stable door is helping..it's like a permanent exhaust for the heat, and the windows open at the top to bring in cool air.

    The teaching office next door has tiny windows, same size office as us, 7-8 staff, 4 PCs and SatCab1 full of switches, plus UPS and 3 servers..again, temps are comfy.

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    I'm sweating my knackers off and the servers arent coping..
    Have you had to shut anymore down yet? Any complaints from people in the staff room?

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    Not yet but about to recehck them all..

    ****UPDATE*****
    3 more down

    WDS
    WSUS
    SUCCESSMAKER

    ***************
    Last edited by Gatt; 6th May 2008 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Already done that in a mass email and an announcement on One || Zero
    We did that once - just shut the lot down for the morning. Next day we had a cooling solution installed.........funny that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Not yet but about to recehck them all..

    ****UPDATE*****
    3 more down

    WDS
    WSUS
    SUCCESSMAKER

    ***************
    That's four down then? How many more to go?

    Why are they making you wait until September for A/C?

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    @jcollings - im soo tempted..
    @Edu-IT - staff dc, pupil dc, staff sql, staff fs, sims, staff intranet, pupil intranet, exams server, pupil fs

    9 left

    ePO server just been shutdown

    so we're at 5 now

    its just the length of time it takes for the red-tape to be navigated... hopefully gonna get it sooner - think last year it was cos b&q ran out of them !!

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