+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
General Chat Thread, Sky+ or sky HD box without subscribing to sky in General; Can someone answer these questions about a sky box. Im thinking about getting one as the signal quality around where ...
  1. #1

    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    3,195
    Thank Post
    321
    Thanked 314 Times in 219 Posts
    Rep Power
    125

    Sky+ or sky HD box without subscribing to sky

    Can someone answer these questions about a sky box. Im thinking about getting one as the signal quality around where i am for analoge tv is s****:

    Would it be possible to buy a Sky+ box and a dish and not to subscribe to sky so i can get the free to air channels and record and pause live tv to the HDD?
    Could i buy a Sky HD box, not subscribe to sky but still watch BBC in HD?
    Does the free to air include the channel Dave?


    Thanks

    Tim
    Last edited by StewartKnight; 6th May 2008 at 12:49 PM. Reason: Swearing

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Durham, UK
    Posts
    328
    Thank Post
    33
    Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts
    Rep Power
    21
    You cant pause live tv or record it if your not subscribed to Sky+, we got a sky+ box from a friend and we tried it using our normal sky card and it just didnt allow us to record or pause live tv without subscribing to Sky+.

    Dont know if it actually works without subscribing at all though.

    Jack

  3. #3

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,440
    Thank Post
    408
    Thanked 669 Times in 611 Posts
    Rep Power
    191
    You would need a Sky card in the box for it to function at all I think and as Jackd pointed out you need a Sky+ subscription for the Sky+ functions to work.

    Could i buy a Sky HD box, not subscribe to sky but still watch BBC in HD?
    Definitely not.

    You could look at this though.
    freesat from Sky - A new way to get free digital satellite TV
    Last edited by Edu-IT; 4th May 2008 at 05:24 PM.

  4. #4

    john's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10,447
    Thank Post
    1,537
    Thanked 1,069 Times in 934 Posts
    Rep Power
    305
    From what I rememebr you can get the boxes but for the + to work you need a valid sky+ subscription and for the HD you do need a Sky HD Sub. You would also need to pay for a Sky FTV Card (FreeSat Card I think its name is) to de-encrypt some of the FTA channels such as 4 as despite it being FTA its broadcast encrypted so you need to buy this card to de-encrypt it. I don't think this card de-encrypts the BBC HD stuff though.

  5. #5
    smileydman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    East, Lancashire
    Posts
    13
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    This is a list of FREE channels. Both FTA (Free to air) and FTV (Free to view). You need a card from SKY £20 to see FTV.
    http://www.wickonline.com/fta.htm

    Most of the cheap DIY install kit £50-70, support FTA only.
    Last edited by smileydman; 4th May 2008 at 05:37 PM.

  6. #6
    torledo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    2,928
    Thank Post
    168
    Thanked 155 Times in 126 Posts
    Rep Power
    48
    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    You would need a Sky card in the box for it to function at all I think and as Jackd pointed out you need a Sky+ subscription for the Sky+ functions to work.

    Definitely not.

    You could look at this though.
    freesat from Sky - A new way to get free digital satellite TV
    So free sat has an extra 156 channels of dross and '+1' channels for you to avoid as compared to freeview at an additional cost of £150 and an unsightly dish outside you're house.

    There's one born every minute for these lot...check the channel listing under movies and look what's offered apart from what's available on freeview (film 4 and film4+1). I rest my case.

    I'd steer well clear of freesat....if you can get it, freeview is a much better option. Won't cost ought either apart from 10 quid for a receiver from argos.

  7. #7

    timbo343's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Leeds/York area, North Yorkshire
    Posts
    3,195
    Thank Post
    321
    Thanked 314 Times in 219 Posts
    Rep Power
    125
    Fair enough. Think questions have been answered then. Thanks everyone. Might just go buy a PVR...

  8. #8

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,681
    Thank Post
    755
    Thanked 1,715 Times in 1,526 Posts
    Rep Power
    438
    Just to confirm that yes unfortunately pause and rewind do not work without a £10 pm sky+ sub.

    I bought a 80GB samsung pvr because of this and you can press record so that it starts to record what you are watching and then when you come back you press play to chase play it.

    Can only record one channel at a time though.

    If you can get digital tv you can get dual tuner pvrs for that.

    Ben

  9. #9

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,440
    Thank Post
    408
    Thanked 669 Times in 611 Posts
    Rep Power
    191
    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Just to confirm that yes unfortunately pause and rewind do not work without a £10 pm sky+ sub.

    I bought a 80GB samsung pvr because of this and you can press record so that it starts to record what you are watching and then when you come back you press play to chase play it.

    Can only record one channel at a time though.

    If you can get digital tv you can get dual tuner pvrs for that.

    Ben
    Sky got rid of the £10 a month subscription charge. Now all you have to do is pay for the box and installation. Obviously you still have to pay the regular Sky subscription charges but there is no additional charge on top of this for Sky+.

    So free sat has an extra 156 channels of dross and '+1' channels for you to avoid as compared to freeview at an additional cost of £150 and an unsightly dish outside you're house.
    I've never looked into it myself, just heard about it. I wouldn't buy it personally.

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    50
    Thank Post
    6
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    Sky got rid of the £10 a month subscription charge. Now all you have to do is pay for the box and installation. Obviously you still have to pay the regular Sky subscription charges but there is no additional charge on top of this for Sky+.
    Sky plus for a subscriber is free. Sky plus for someone who is not paying to receive channels is £10 per month.

    I wonder how many people think that it is worth £10 per month when you can get some channels thrown in for a few quid more.


    From Sky's T&C
    Sky+: Sky+ box normally £149 with Sky TV or £99 when its your first Sky+/HD box and you also take Sky Broadband and Sky Talk or Sky Multiroom. £199 for non-Sky TV customers. Only compatible with digital satellite. Sky digital subscription required for Sky digital programming. Sky+ can store an average of 40 hours of programmes at a time. Sky+ subscription required to use Personal Video Recorder features of Sky+ (free while you subscribe to any Sky digital package, otherwise £10 a month). Minimum term for Sky+ subscription 12 months. Sky selects your equipment.

  11. #11

    localzuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Minehead
    Posts
    18,496
    Thank Post
    526
    Thanked 2,638 Times in 2,042 Posts
    Blog Entries
    24
    Rep Power
    895
    What about signing up for the BT Vision system? I have one, you can watch and record at the same time, and there is on demand content. No HD at the moment though.

    But then, it doesn't exactly cost a lot!

  12. #12
    mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    3,987
    Thank Post
    275
    Thanked 52 Times in 46 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    48
    Interesting, didn't realise the Sky+ PVR functions were limited to subscription! Seems a bit cheeky, especially as they charge some people full price for it.
    Makes BT Vision look more attractive.

  13. #13
    Butuz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wales, UK
    Posts
    1,579
    Thank Post
    211
    Thanked 220 Times in 176 Posts
    Rep Power
    63
    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    You would need a Sky card in the box for it to function at all I think and as Jackd pointed out you need a Sky+ subscription for the Sky+ functions to work.

    Definitely not.
    You can plug it in and it will work!

    If you take a Sky+ HD box, plug it onto a dish - you will get normal freeview channels - Plus 3 HD channels (BBC, Channel4 and Luxe). You won't be able to record or pause or rewind etc - you need a sky subscription for that. But you can watch normal channels plus the three HD channels above. Works a treat - heroes is in HD on BBC, and there are always HD films on the C4 channel.

    It's all good! Though a Sky+HD box is a bit overkill - possdibly the most expensive and powerful freeview box on earth?!!

    Butuz

  14. #14
    torledo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    2,928
    Thank Post
    168
    Thanked 155 Times in 126 Posts
    Rep Power
    48
    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    You can plug it in and it will work!

    If you take a Sky+ HD box, plug it onto a dish - you will get normal freeview channels - Plus 3 HD channels (BBC, Channel4 and Luxe). You won't be able to record or pause or rewind etc - you need a sky subscription for that. But you can watch normal channels plus the three HD channels above. Works a treat - heroes is in HD on BBC, and there are always HD films on the C4 channel.

    It's all good! Though a Sky+HD box is a bit overkill - possdibly the most expensive and powerful freeview box on earth?!!

    Butuz
    didn't realise channel 4 had a HD channel....

    What can you do with a PVR like tivo when used with something like freeview or a sky subscription without + ?

    Can you for instance schedule recordings, record more than one channel, and record a channel while you watch a programme on a different channel.

    The pausing of live tv i would expect that to only be available with a sky+....but the other stuff i would expect from a PVR.

  15. #15
    SteveBentley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Yorkshire
    Posts
    1,454
    Thank Post
    120
    Thanked 264 Times in 190 Posts
    Rep Power
    73
    The BBC and ITV are launching a freesat service today, not to be confused with Sky's freesat. I suspect that HDD recorders for that won't be too far away if they're not already here



SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •