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General Chat Thread, Would you reveal your salary details? in General; Well you still might be able to get an idea if someone is very over or under paid but yeh ...
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    Well you still might be able to get an idea if someone is very over or under paid but yeh it's not really worth much in that sence but then the freedom of information act isn't about snooping on peoples pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    Well you still might be able to get an idea if someone is very over or under paid but yeh it's not really worth much in that sence
    It's worth a *lot*. Especially in schools IT there is a general misunderstanding of the equal pay act. If an employee of the same LA finds someone who has a similar role and responsibility they are perfectly entitled to make an equal pay claim. usually, the basis of an equal pay claim is sex discrimination, but it could be age, race or disability - on these grounds a tribunal will normally uphold the complaint.

    LA's do have a lot to worry about when schools appoint people on pay far less than they would be paid in other areas of the council - from the govt's point of view it's another reason why they are trying to outsource (BSF) school IT.I don't see unions making a fuss about this. In the mean time LA's implement simgle status - but we've all seen similar threads where it's just used as a downgrading exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    It's worth a *lot*. Especially in schools IT there is a general misunderstanding of the equal pay act. If an employee of the same LA finds someone who has a similar role and responsibility they are perfectly entitled to make an equal pay claim. usually, the basis of an equal pay claim is sex discrimination, but it could be age, race or disability - on these grounds a tribunal will normally uphold the complaint.

    LA's do have a lot to worry about when schools appoint people on pay far less than they would be paid in other areas of the council - from the govt's point of view it's another reason why they are trying to outsource (BSF) school IT.I don't see unions making a fuss about this. In the mean time LA's implement simgle status - but we've all seen similar threads where it's just used as a downgrading exercise.
    Single status in practice has by and large been a case pf moving people over to the new scale(s) with little or no deviation in current salary. Where the worrying bit comes is in the fine print of the new contracts and the fact in a lot of cases the top of a persons new band is they're glass ceiling under single status, and moving within and between scales is review related or done at the directorate level in the case of moving up to the next scale.

    Even a decision directorate level may require the post to be readvertised or the post holder to be reinterviewed, that's the equal opportunities issue.

    It's really a game of musical chairs, where pay is not necessarily the issue for most people (as i said most are as you were with a wee bit extra) but the eventual transition to a PRP system which is square holes for round pegs for a lot of jobs where it's difficult to measure performance and adjust salary accordingly. The councils are using single status which is a legal requirement to eventually implement they're own PRP system...single status has nothing to do with PRP but it doesn't stop councils.

    ofcourse there are some losers - and those on low pay who've lost out the decisions must be challenged, but by and larges most people are just marginally better off financially. For most the eventual move to PRP and the pay reviews are the big problem.

    Schools as we've said before a special case in all of this as pay increases and decisions on salary are made even under single status by the host school.

    It is to them evidence of low pay or incorrect job evaluation should be taken.
    after all it's they who have the final say.

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    @ CyberNerd: My point was that it's not worth allot in it's current form as the information isn't detailed enough to serve any purpose (once single status is finished the information should mean more). I can certainly agree that if the information was more relevent then it would be very usefull in the context that you would be using the information for.

    LA's do have a lot to worry about when schools appoint people on pay far less than they would be paid in other areas of the council
    This is why schools try to avoid sending job specs to the LA, i've always managed to force the issue and have my position graded by the LA.
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