General Chat Thread, Pay in schools???? Help and advise needed in General; Originally Posted by button_ripple
Same boat as you! I get 8K a year, i work a 35 hour week (but ...
17th April 2008, 03:52 PM #16
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What does 'looking after' involve? If there is no second line support and 'the buck stops with you' when there is a problem then just over minimum wage seems rather low.
Originally Posted by button_ripple
If it's day-to-day support, changing the backup tapes and toners, resetting passwords and resolving simple problems then it's a more reasonable.
17th April 2008, 04:01 PM #17
Yeah we've had that here a few times, although fair enough the CT asks us nicely to help him out, and I don't mind as the caretaker here is a good guy and we have a laugh. Plus I'd feel bad if he had to do it himself, I know I'd be pi$$ed off if it was me and someone else didn't bother to help me!
had a call only monday asking me and the teckie to help the caretaker to move some benches
Of course, if I was actually *ordered* by someone in the SMT to do something like this, first thing I'd ask for is a Risk Assessment, what Health and Safety they have in place to ensure the moving of the equipment was safe, what would happen to my job if I were to hurt my back and be off for weeks, etc etc...........
17th April 2008, 04:05 PM #18
Nah - the reason the pay is so bad is because we keep doing a load of stuff that is not on our JD and not getting paid for it. Point me to the teacher who takes on loads of extra responsibilities without the commensurate rewards!
Originally Posted by mortstar
17th April 2008, 04:20 PM #19
I dont want to dampen your hopes but if your JE turns out anything like ours then appeals, unions or anything else wont help you
Originally Posted by pallen
17th April 2008, 04:39 PM #20
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j17sparky - oh, you haven't dampened my hopes. I am fully aware that I am going to get royally S*****d. I just think it's about time schools recognised the tech support they are getting is way above what they are paying(in a lot of cases). Most people work in schools due to enjoying the job, and they do more than their contract states. However, there comes a point when it stops being that little bit extra, and starts becoming taking the p**s.
I'll admit that I was hoping JE would actually identify the job I am doing rather than the one I was originally employed to do and might actually get a pay rise. The only way that is going to happen is if I leave, which is a shame as I used to actually like it here, but the longer this JE goes on, the more I resent the place.
17th April 2008, 04:56 PM #21
You just have to treat these low paid jobs as stepping stones. You have your experience now, so go out and find a job where they are willing to pay for your knowledge, skills and experience. That is what i did although I moved from a company rather than a school. 4 years down the line I am a lot happier doing a job using the skills I had trained for in the first place and my wage has doubled.
You just have to find the right place to work which can be the most difficult part but very satisfying once you are there.
17th April 2008, 05:23 PM #22
Originally Posted by pallen
That pretty much sums up how i feel. I have little motivation now; i had a server to rebuild this week but due to doing jobs which others should be doing ive put it on the back burner. Last year i would have started it and risked staying late one day to get it sorted, but now ive realised my efforts wont be appreciated so it can just wait till next holidays.
When i first heard of JE i was optomistic and thought finally ill get the wages i deserve. I even turned down a few better payed jobs thinking that would be the case. How nieve i was
17th April 2008, 05:28 PM #23
Thats the way i had always thought of it, but i had also nievely thought i may be able to stay and "move up the ladder" in terms of wages. I never expected to be worse off after 3 years (due to lack of cost of living rises and high inflation) and be being forced out so soon.
Originally Posted by ChrisH
Im training in the networking side of things, just about finished my CCNA. Started on my CCNP. Great "they" are always looking for people with my skills... Not round here they arnt. A job search of networking jobs within 50miles of my area brings up a whole 1 job. Damn my area!
Last edited by j17sparky; 17th April 2008 at 05:31 PM.
17th April 2008, 09:06 PM #24
I'm just going to go straight in and critique you're website...'cos i'm a git. j/k
The first thing a visitor who reaches a flash intro does is look for that skip intro button. It doesn't matter what fancy animations and bells and whistles you've got on the flash intro if it doesn't display a menu or navigation pretty darn quick it's going to get skipped. All those accreditations are painfully slow in loading. There's no way anyone who's ever visited the site has ever found out what the last 2 or three accreditadions are. Noones that patient or that interested tbh.
the site itself is more promising, although i did find it a litttle bit unsttructured and a bit busy. I think better to unclutter and alow the navigation bar to guide the visitors to the website sections. Also, you might want to investigate the formatting and display of the site on different browser at different resolutions.
Having said that i think it's a terrific effort and you're defitely heading in the right direction....and it's far better than anything i could have done.
18th April 2008, 11:53 AM #25
totally argree about the flash page but its what the boss wanted, its virtually the same as the one on the old site exept i updated the look to the new site timeing is pretty similar, i h8 it tho.
i have tried to make it as clean as possible but keeping the informatio we(the boss) wanted on the page
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