How Long?

**Gatt** · 14th April 2008, 08:06 AM

Ok just tried downloading the eBay toolbar and erm.. well.. see for yourself..

**kmount** · 14th April 2008, 08:10 AM

Welcome to Vista pre SP1.

**Gatt** · 14th April 2008, 08:12 AM

Err.. I'm using SP1!!

**K.C.Leblanc** · 14th April 2008, 08:46 AM

Are you on dialup?

**Roach-IT** · 14th April 2008, 08:47 AM

*Waiting quietly for the release of Windows 7* lol

**Gatt** · 14th April 2008, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by K.C.Leblanc

Are you on dialup?

Err nope.. that was AFTER it had downloaded (20MBit BURST connection)
The above screen grab was it trying to copy it to my NAS on a 1GB LAN!!!

**richard.thomas** · 14th April 2008, 09:04 AM

Were you listening to music at the time? I heard or read something the other day that vista has a weird bug which means if the soundcard is being heavily used the network support turns to mud...
I had vista for 6 months and went back to XP purely because of the amount of time it used to take to move stuff on my hdd to external drive to backup, etc.

**Gatt** · 14th April 2008, 09:06 AM

Nope - only thing open was IE (Edugeek, ebay, email, BBC News) Outlook & Office Communicator..

**torledo** · 14th April 2008, 09:18 AM

I was reading an article about how the reason Vista is so terrible at network copying is because MS made the fatal error in not leaving the intelligence to the switching infrastructure, instead of treating the network as a black box and allowing switches and NIC drivers to sort things out amongst themselves it's added all these things to the network connections in Vista, basically encroaching in an area they should have left alone.

I must say i don't fully understand what microsoft have done or if i've relayed correctly what the author was trying to say. But that's pretty much how i interpreted it.

**Gatt** · 14th April 2008, 09:23 AM

In other words - they are re-writing networking protocols? (didn't they do this with the Web?)

**srochford** · 14th April 2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Gatt

In other words - they are re-writing networking protocols? (didn't they do this with the Web?)

Not that simple (in fact, not really to do with protocols as I understand it).

Mark Russinovich (of sysinternals fame) has blogged about it at great length and tried to explain why Vista was bad and why SP1 should be better.

My personal experience is much like that of @Gatt; the SP1 copying can still be absolutely abysmal - I've now removed Vista from the machine I was trying it on.