I have bought and sold over eBay on a regular basis for many years and still have 100% feedback. We've only lost money on one occasion - fortunately it wasn't much, just under £10 (item was never sent). That seller went from 100% feedback to NARU (see below) in 14 days... the account had probably been hacked.
When eBay suspend a user it is because they are investigating something; complaints, non-payment of fees, fraud or whatever.
If the users ID comes up with "No longer a registered user" (NARU); they've been chucked out.
Whatever you do; DO NOT TRADE OUTSIDE EBAY WITH A SUSPENDED SELLER. It's an easy way of losing your money. If they're innocent, they'll be back and able to trade again. You will not be protected by eBay or PayPal.
You may find this online tool from Toolhaus useful for investigating the negative and neutral feedback of sellers or buyers: Negative/Neutral Feedback
My rule of thumb is: If I feel uncomfortable, I will not buy. The item will always come up again on eBay with another seller sooner or later.
Last edited by elsiegee40; 2nd April 2008 at 12:32 PM.
Why are things never simple eh?
Last edited by elsiegee40; 2nd April 2008 at 01:23 PM. Reason: Changed borderline to actual - I'm cross about this
eBay states in it's terms:
Trying to avoid suspension or restriction by using another existing account or registering a new account, is not permitted. A suspension on eBay may be for a fixed length of time, indefinite or permanent and remains in effect until removed by eBay.
So having more than one account is grounds for them all to suspended immediately anyway. Paypal has a similar clause in its terms.
To be fair, as NickJones said, who would knowingly trade with someone whose philosophy is to 'abuse' a system and it's rules? Is it all really worth it?
Stupid, idiotic and down right dangerous in my honest opinion and I wouldn't recommend posting your ID on here or I guarantee it will be reported
The easiest way to use the ebay system is to work in teams, I have three different people who sell my items for me, they all have several ebay accounts. They build up the feedback by selling cheap items such as Mcdonalds toys, food voucher etc.
After 3 months no one can tell what you have sold, these accounts are then ripe to be used for more expensive items such rare concert/football tickets etc.
There is no real fraud involved, just making the most of the rules that ebay have to make your own accounts look like experienced reliable sellers.
Don't panic Nick Jones, I don't sell train sets mate.
I sell pre war football tickets, I've probably used over 50 different ebay accounts over the last 4-5 years, the trick is not to become attached to them. They are there to help you make money and when they get banned or bad feedback you just use a different one.
I realise that most people will disagree but this hobby that I have selling tickets brings over 2 times my wages, so I'm doing something right.
Legal or otherwise, surely the fact the ebay suspends your accounts for these things suggests that you shouldn't be doing them?!
While there is nothing exactly fraudulent in what you describe doing, it is somewhat deceptive to say "I sell quality rare items - look at my 2000 positive feedbacks" when most of those feedbacks were earned from totally unrelated items or, apparently, by repeated dealings between two 'partners'.
Indeed, if you didn't play the system and keep getting shut down, you would by now have a truly enormous feedback score and long-term history, giving buyers great confidence, rather than the much lower one which you get because you have to start over every few months.
Interesting closing remark, by the way - I personally don't agree with the statement that something is right so long as it makes someone money, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
think i might have got banned for selling 'freeware'... although i stated it was freeware and that they were paying for the service of me downloading it and gathering it... they must have thought I was a 'scammer!'
hmmm.... i stick to selling old t-shirts now! Or anything from the attic.
Carboot sales are easier though.
Depending on what you sell ebay can be real cut throat, rival sellers leaving you bad feedback, rival sellers recking your auctions by placing high bids with new accounts etc.
Any experienced seller who is keen on making a profit month after month will almost certainly have more than one account.
When your selling items that are worth between 800 - 2000 uk pounds your accounts will always come under scrutiny.
Last I saw Misleading Advertising was against UK law.
Some traders legitimately get 5 figure positive feedbacks that more than cancel the few negs they get in the course of a months trading. What you are doing is despicable. I'm sorely tempted to post this thread on the eBay boards.
I note that you have some negative rep on here, actually; can we expect to see this account become dormant and a new one created next week?
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