34mpg? (real world)
there are small diesel cars about that will do 75 - 80 mpg and cost around 1/5th the price.
The environment is screwed, there is nothing we can do to stop it. The amount of carbon produced by even the most simple of human activities is more than you could possibly imagine, and the green campaigners always go on about the things that just don't matter.
Recycle? Don't drive an suv sized vehicle for a year and save the same amount of energy as if you recycled every bit of waste you produced for 40 years.
The amount of fuel burnt collecting / sorting / reusing rubbish makes the net gains negligible.
THE WORLD IS GOING TO HELL IN A HANDCART AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP IT!
<going to have a lie down as I feel like one of my turns is coming on>
yeah, sod the planet - I need a foreign holiday!
You are right though - we need to do significantly more than recycle our junk mail, chuck in a few low-energy light-bulbs and then sit back smugly thinking we've saved the planet.
Well i have been driving one for the last year and a half - and i am perfectly happy with it.
Just to correct a few "un-truths"...
It is an expensive car, but you get an awful lot for your money. The top of the range Spirit has proper sat-nav, bluetooth, climate control, reversing camera, umpteen speaker multi-CD stereo and so on. I've also got the intelligent parking assist - you tell it where to go via the dashboard touchscreen display, and it parks itself!
It isn't heavy, in fact it is lighter than my previous car - a Subaru WRX with PPP. It also has 400nm of torque, compared to a mere 300nm on the Scooby!!!
It doesn't come with Michelin "economy tyres" - it is shod with quite grippy Bridgestone Turanzas, and the 195/55 profile does a good job.
The whole synergy drive system has an eight year warranty, so no battery replacement worries.
Acceleration is easily on a par with your average 2 litre motor - often other drivers seem quite surprised how nippy it is.
I get 40+ mpg, but i tend to drive it like i stole it If you do long motorway journeys then a diesel is probably better, but around town the Prius is far superior.
The continuously variable transmission makes driving in traffic a dream - and lets face it, we are stuck in traffic most of the time.
Switching to electric-only mode is great fun in car parks - scaring old folks and totally freaking out most cats
So, don't slag it off until you have (properly) tried it!!
mb (donning flame suit )
I've still to be convinded that petrol-electic hybrids are anything other than a gimmick that we'll look back on and laugh at in a few years time! The extra weight/cost of the batteries and electric engine seems to instantly negate any benefit they offer IMO.
Last edited by flyinghaggis; 28th March 2008 at 03:22 PM.
My old 1992 1.1 fiesta did 45mpg in town driving. cost me £125.
Probably because it was so light where large parts had rusted off though :-)
IT's a toyota....nuff said.
btw, no car can be as ugly as the old aventis, except maybe the Renault Laguna.
Two quick thoughts:-
1) My old X reg 2.1l HDi Xantia did 45mpg on cr@p motorway crawl into work, not estimated, but measured. Big comfortable car.
2) Portsmouth Uni are working on a petrol/electric modified Mini that will do 0-60mph in 4 and a bit seconds. Don't remember what the consumption was though, but it was good. An electric motor on each wheel, and 1l engine running at the most efficient speed to charge the batteries.
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