Oops. Sorry. Politics. I'm still a bit ill.
I joined that army at 16 as a driver, spent a year in training and got the education I didn't get from school (if they had their way I would have ended up in an unskilled manual job to this day). I had all my HGV3 and motorcycle license by 17 and by the age of 20 my HGV1. Spent 13 years in, traveled the world and didn't regret a day of it.
Up yours NUT!
P.S. I never saw the NUT protesting for the removal of soviet nuclear weaponry in eastern Europe during the cold war. Funny that.
Oops. Sorry. Politics. I'm still a bit ill.
yeah but you can probably get some good ideas from most of the advisors out there
To answer the lads question, the only jobs i can think of which take on under 16s are;
Glass collector in a night club.
AFAIK legally there are very few jobs out there for under 16s due to working hours, insurance, manual handling etc
I think I will look for a job as a kitchen cleaner.
When I was a pot washer the chef was fine. Was just in a normal pub though... and he was gay, and very mild tempered.
I disagree with what localzuk has said. I joined the military at 16 because the alternative was going on the dole and I didn't have any aspirations towards going to university. A misconception that people have (including the NUT) is that at 16 you will be given a gun and told to kill or be killed...this simply is not the case, you are not allowed into a conflict zone until 18 years of age. My first two years in were spent travelling doing support and aid work. I was in Ethiopia for the second famine relief run and was also involved in natural disaster relief work. I had the option to leave at any point before my 18th birthday, but chose to stay in (15years in total) and although I have been involved in conflict zones, it was my choice to remain in and do so.I would argue the opposite - the fact that you joined the military at 16 indicates something strange (not that I have anything against the military though, just some of the actions they have been forced into lately but that's not their fault). We, generally speaking, are not emotionally mature enough to do many things by 16. For example, we can't buy or partake in the creation of pornography, get married without parental consent, vote, buy alcohol etc... How can we be stable enough to be in the military at that early age? It forces the person to mature at a faster rate than any other career would, and this would be seen in aspects of your later life.
I agree with the comment that they have been forced into some actions lately that they should not have been, but it must be remembered that this was done by Mr Blairs government and not by the forces.
Would I let my kids join now at 16.......not a chance, if they still wanted to at 18 then that is their choice. Basically things within the world have changed a lot since I was that age, as have politics and how much we as a country act as a lapdog to a larger super power!!!!!
I worked as a part time ICT technician at a local primary school when i was 13, only left at 16 to get a full time job. Started off being employed to do basic printer filling / mouse cleaning etc, but as I was the only tech there, ended up ordering and installing an NT server, and setting up their network before I left. Definately the best way to learn!
After 3 years in the private sector, I came back to the same primary School 4 year ago, where i'm now the ICT support manager!
One of my technicians at this school I hired part time when he was 15, now he's left college at 18, we've taken him on full time, and he's out supporting a number of other schools. Another of my schools hired someone at 14, and he's still with us a year and a bit later, slowly being given more responsibilities.
I would defnately approach a few of the local primary schools and see if you can be of assistance - you'll end up doing all the basic jobs to start with, but should be able to develop over time. From the schools point of view it makes sense paying you a few pound an hour to do all the basic stuff, freeing up their expensive IT tech to do the more complicated stuff.
When I joined (at 16 as per the previous post) the options available to a modern school leaver were simply not there. University education was almost unachievable by most mortals and in mid 80's Lancashire industry and the jobs they brought were in terminal decline. Joining at 16 had many advantages though. I got paid and was well trained, educated, fitter than I have ever been and skilled by the time I finished my time in training at age 18.
For all those who go on about giving guns to 16 year olds you should try it. Once you have had to look after and carry a weapon better that you have to look after yourself for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week the novelty of guns wears off pretty dammed quick, and nowadays you cannot go to war until you are over 18.
And believe it or not, the army does not take just anybody, in fact it has very, very stringent entry standards. More so than most colleges and universities. They aren't dumb knuckle draggers, they just act like it when people are looking ;-)
Last edited by Dos_Box; 26th March 2008 at 01:57 PM.
Thee BBC has cv tips for young people on its website. Take a look at this:
BBC NI - Schools - Go get it! - Get that job - CV tips
Also the DirectGov cv Builder has tips and helps to write a cv:
Last edited by elsiegee40; 26th March 2008 at 04:53 PM.
My own view on the army recruiting school leavers is that particularly over the last 4 years of the iraq and afghanistan conflicts, the news reports coming out of the war zones sits at odds with the recuitment ads on the telly. Ofcourse that's going to be the case, the armed forces are hardly going recreate the opening seconds of saving private ryan in their adverts.....but i think there's some confusion as to what being in the armed forces really means.
The adverts seem to be focusing on careers within the army, as mechanical engineers, cooks etc. rather than as soldiers on the front line. At best it's not painting the entire picture at worst it's misleading. Ofcourse the armed forces need and have a huge support system of cooks, engineers and admin staff - but aren't these roles in most cases far removed from the roadside bombs, the foot patrols and the exposure to danger due to lack of equipment ? Recruiting for a profession in the army to me is very different to recruiting a soldier. Or are all in the army soldiers irrespective of their role ?
Have you thought about offering to walk any dogs that are in your neighbourhood? The ones with four legs, before anyone says anything else.
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