General Chat Thread, budget in General; saw this on the budget on the bbc site
HOUSING: From April, key workers, such as teachers and nurses, will ...
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12th March 2008, 04:16 PM #1
budget
saw this on the budget on the bbc site
HOUSING: From April, key workers, such as teachers and nurses, will be able to borrow money from shared equity schemes.
i'm alright homewise having bought one when they were "cheap" but for other people, whats the likelihood this will apply to technicians as well?
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12th March 2008, 04:18 PM #2
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12th March 2008, 04:30 PM #3 You forget teachers are "special"
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12th March 2008, 04:32 PM #4 
Originally Posted by
Diello
You forget teachers are "special"

and precious
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12th March 2008, 04:52 PM #5 And without them the world would cease to exist....
(Cynics aren't we?)
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12th March 2008, 04:53 PM #6 I'm not saying the job is 'easy' but they do get a very good deal. Likelihood this will apply to technicians, big fat 0
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12th March 2008, 05:04 PM #7 IT Techs aren't keyworkers... in fact we're probably regarded as high income workers by the treasury as we'll be lumped in with with all the ones who get paid properly in industry!
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12th March 2008, 06:52 PM #8 When it comes to it key workers are jobs in which there is a shortage off and support staff that isn't true.
lsa/htla's - It is good time to be one of these lots of good deals and jobs around
Admin staff - Always people available to fill these positions
IT Staff - Lots of people around to fill these jobs at moment (changing through)
Science Techs - This one odd one it depends some places found it hard but as rule still lot of people applying for these jobs.
But at moment it is hard to recruit teachers etc.
Russell
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12th March 2008, 09:30 PM #9 
Originally Posted by
russdev
When it comes to it key workers are jobs in which there is a shortage off and support staff that isn't true.
lsa/htla's - It is good time to be one of these lots of good deals and jobs around
Admin staff - Always people available to fill these positions
IT Staff - Lots of people around to fill these jobs at moment (changing through)
Science Techs - This one odd one it depends some places found it hard but as rule still lot of people applying for these jobs.
But at moment it is hard to recruit teachers etc.
Russell
I think nurses are deserving of key worker status due to the wide range of roles they now assume as underpaid general dog's body's in our third world nhs...plus the unsociable working hours.
But i think teachers as 'key workers' seriously needs to be reevaluated, maybe they should be downgraded like cannabis.
I don't think IT workers in education will ever be 'key' to any government such is the mindset of our politicians who crave approval from dumb britain. Private Eye took the piss out of Gordon Brown and 'New Labour' with a section mentioning 'Nurses, Teachers and Hedge Fund managers' as keyworkers. LOL
Ain't that the truth about the champagne socialists in New Labour under broon and they're city pals.
Last edited by torledo; 12th March 2008 at 09:34 PM.
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12th March 2008, 10:25 PM #10 No teachers = school calls in supply
No support staff = school can't function
Yes, sounds like the sort of backward-thinking this Government is known for. Teachers always get looked after.
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12th March 2008, 10:56 PM #11 
Originally Posted by
webman
No teachers = school calls in supply
No support staff = school can't function
Yes, sounds like the sort of backward-thinking this Government is known for. Teachers always get looked after.
Thats becasue they have massivly loud and powerful unions who negotiated this sate of affairs for them.
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13th March 2008, 12:12 AM #12 The vocal minority will always get preference over the silent majority. It's simply the nature of politics. It'll never change.
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13th March 2008, 09:30 AM #13 But when it comes to it what ever you say there is national shortage of teachers just same as there is for nurses, police officers, educational psychologists, social workers etc etc who are all classed as key workers.
If there was a shortage of it workers we would be classed as key workers don't get blinkered because word teacher comes up.
fyi key workers are defined as (there is some local differences but broad view) as
# Clinical NHS staff (with the exception of doctors and dentists)
# Teachers and nursery nurses in schools and further education/sixth form colleges
# Police officers, Community Support Officers and some civilian staff
# Prison officers and some other Prison staff
# Probation Service staff
# Social workers, nursery nurses, educational psychologists, and therapists (eg.occupational therapists) employed by local authorities, CAFCASS, or the NHS
# Local Authority Planners
# Firefighters and other uniformed staff below principal level in Fire and Rescue Services
# Connexions Personal Advisors employed by a local authority or a Connexions Partnership
# Ministry of Defence (certain personnel)
# Qualified Environmental Health Officers/Practitioners who work in a local authority, government agency, NHS or other public sector agencies
# Highway Agency Traffic Officer staff in safety critical roles within the Traffic Officer Service
Russ
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